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edition july 8 1947.

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the army air forces has announced that a

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flying disc has been found and is now in

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the possession of the army

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i occasionally think how quickly

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our difference is worldwide would vanish

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if we were facing an alien threat from

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this is fade to black with your host

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jimmy church on the game changer radio

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tuesday november 23rd 2021.

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326 days into the new year only 39 days

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left we are live from a bunker somewhere

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in the middle of nowhere

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a total undisclosed location i would

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like to welcome everybody listening all

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around the world all across the united

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for kj cr the game changer in x networks

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i'm your host jimmy church

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tonight very special guest margie k is

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here thanksgiving week

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here to discuss the midwest ufo's uap's

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et contact tomorrow night dave schrader

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dave schrader stops by for schrader

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and thursday is thanksgiving after

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for fade to black live very special

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thanksgiving fader night taking all of

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all right let's get straight to it

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follow me on twitter

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lots of big stuff going down today on

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at j church radio that's all you got to

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do okay let's get to i'm gonna jump

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i've got to it's thanksgiving week and i

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breaking news that

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i announced last night it continued

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through today the observers is now

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platforms click on the link below right

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and you can get the observers you can

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all right and also tonight after the

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are you ready nasa's asteroid impact

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mission is set to launch and you can

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the double asteroid redirection test

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this is a spacex falcon 9 rocket

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coast of california live launch coverage

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watch all of the events on space.com's

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and there's nothing really in between me

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and vandenberg but desert so we shall

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launches out of vandenberg before but

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people in ontario canada

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now have the opportunity to make click

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service entered a partnership with pot

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elon musk has finally scored a buyer for

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on his mission to mars

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the contract is pending a contingent

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of his announcement that he would move

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his tesla headquarters from california

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cracking happy birthday to today bruce

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the way it is

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our dead guy's birthday today is johnny

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mandel 1925 to 2020 died at the age of

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johnny was a composer and arranger for

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uh he worked with count basie frank

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shirley horn he won five grammy awards

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from 17 nominations he won the grammy

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award for best instrumental arrangement

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accompanying a vocal in 1981 for quincy

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but we all know johnny from his

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suicide is painless

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that's right the theme song from the

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at the age of 94 johnny mandel on this

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day in history 1963

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airs on the bbc now think about 19 i was

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holy crap and you hear it all the time

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about how long and how many doctor who's

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there have been and you know you got the

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black and white version got the color

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a cup noodles mug

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and and and look

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it's got a lid it's got a lead with the

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oh man look at that so cool and uh thank

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you christina but there's more

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oh did you send me something yeah it was

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i'm thankful for co-hosts like that and

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uh very special very cool thank you

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christina this means a lot and um i had

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it's like the coolest christmas gift

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so thank you for that all right we've

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got an amazing week sorry for a little

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technically everything is set up

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everything is go all i do

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everything launches across all the

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networks the audio goes out separately

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the video goes out separately everything

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and start the show and when it

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when it doesn't work it's like what

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and there you go there was a reset with

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the youtube not the youtube um our

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that was going on anyway we're good now

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so i'm very excited to continue this

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week tonight with margie k

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here to discuss midwest ufo's uaps et

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and contact tomorrow night right here on

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this very program dave schrader is here

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stopping by for

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it's gonna be really cool thursday i'm

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here well not i'm i'm gonna have dinner

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i'm gonna have thanksgiving dinner but

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after that i'll be right here in the

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bunker hanging out with you for a very

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special thursday thanksgiving fader

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night special i'm your host jimmy church

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this is fade to black on the game

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this is nicole church daughter of you

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know who and you're listening to fade to

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is not

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on the game changer radio network

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hi this is rob reiner from anvil and

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what's up i'm chris what up this is kyle

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matthews radio

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all right welcome back fade to block

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everyone's jimmy church

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exciting night on the show right

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what a great week

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night marty k tonight tomorrow night

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dave schrader is here stopping by for

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schrader nights

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and then thursday's thanksgiving so

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after thanksgiving dinner i'm going to

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be right here in the bunker hanging out

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with all of you taking your phone calls

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and to see what you are thankful for

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i've got a long list of stuff but

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tonight

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margie k is here we're going to be

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talking about the midwest

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midwest ufos sightings contact and

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disclosure

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uh we're going to cover three states

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tonight and one by one we're going to

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find out what's really going on margie

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of course is the ceo owner and president

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of forensic investigation company

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director of the oz international

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interdimensional

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international

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interdimensional communication institute

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and president of unex media and the uh

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kunx digital broadcasting network margie

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is a 40-year veteran of the ufo and uh

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community a paranormal investigator and

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is a nationally acclaimed remote viewer

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having helped to solve more over 60

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missing person homicide and theft cases

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for law enforcement she serves as

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assistant state director and education

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coordinator for missouri mufon

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and as director of the oz

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interdimensional communication institute

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she is a licensed private investigator

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in missouri and is the author of 14

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books with more books and films in the

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works

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i would like to welcome the faded black

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my boss

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margie k

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margie hey jimmy now the the pressure's

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on man

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you know what oh yeah you know what's

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great uh

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uh you know a technical snafu uh at the

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start of the show tonight the night that

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you're on and i'm like no no no not

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tonight

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you know i'm sorry that sometimes i do

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cause things like that to happen oh i

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can blame you

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right well i'll take the heat okay and

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fair enough fair enough

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um uh i i actually want to start here um

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uh kunx the nx network

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uh has uh started to blaze a trail i i

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was expecting it i kind of felt it

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coming

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uh you've shot to number one you've got

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the best programming in our community in

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this fear

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and that's got to be pretty exciting how

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do you feel

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i feel fantastic i i am absolutely

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flabbergasted that we hit number one the

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very first night

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uh you know just hitting the ball out of

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out of the ballpark

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and i'll tell you what this is this is

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not just me this is a combination

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of a lot of people working really hard

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behind the scenes and i i've got to give

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a huge shout out to race hobbs he's the

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programming director he's the one that

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goes out and seeks out the top top shows

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for this network and of course

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jimmy you're the number one show you are

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our anchor show for this network and you

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were the first one to say hey

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yeah that sounds pretty good let's do it

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and so i thank you for for taking the

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leap and taking the chance it's it's

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just been amazing uh to see and this is

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you know this is the drill

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this is the the real bottom line

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all of us everybody kicks back and says

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you know

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i have a dream right i want to go i want

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to get this done well

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most of it stays in in in people's heads

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right it's another thing to take the

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step to take the chance to roll the dice

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and get it done and then

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is it going to work is it going to

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happen is it going to be successful that

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you know and you can't do any of that

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you can't get to it unless you roll the

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dice and you roll the dice and and

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came up snake eyes right

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i i think so i think this is the start

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of something really really good really

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big

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and i'm very positive about it as

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as you know i'm a serial entrepreneur as

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they say yeah i've had a number of

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businesses not all of them have worked

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out

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but i have some that have been very

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successful

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and the way when things fall into place

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just like clockwork you know you're on

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the right path and that is exactly what

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has happened here all the right people

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are here all the right people are

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working on this i've got a fantastic

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assistant

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i've got we've got a great web designer

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uh and we've got lee spiegel who just

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signed on as the managing enter editor

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for annex magazine

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and he is going to start doing our blogs

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tomorrow

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so

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i mean i i'm just thrilled to death that

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we have the talent that we have here at

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this network and i know it's going to be

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great can you tell us a little bit about

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annex magazine and what that is and

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now i didn't expect margie to just come

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out and and and drop lee spiegel uh like

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that tonight on the show

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uh so congratulations on that

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uh tell us about the nx magazine

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well annex i started it in

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oh gosh 2007.

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i used to call it something else but

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then there was a little legal battle

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over the name because i had the word ufo

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in it if you can imagine that

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it was midwest ufo and there were a

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couple of other magazines that took

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issue with that so i took that

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opportunity to change the name because i

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felt like it was also a little bit too

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restrictive

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because the magazine really and what i

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wanted to cover in it was everything

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paranormal anything unexplained

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so

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the gamut ghosts sasquatch crop circles

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time travel you name it

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is in the magazine and that's what it's

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all about and that's what the station is

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all about

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and it just

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it the two fit together

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so you're going to see some

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information about the network of course

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in the magazine and some feature

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articles on some of the hosts

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and you'll be getting a call from lee

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jimmy probably pretty soon

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uh for that he's going to be doing a

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feature article on on each of our hosts

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and then also some

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some very very well known researchers

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and authors

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and uh they will be

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on the front cover of the magazine

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so

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that's a that's expanding but if if

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you're into paranormal of any type

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it's covered there so and the magazine

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is available in print or digital

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and you know and that's that's what i

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really appreciate from your take on this

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uh because media it's multimedia

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it's not just audio it's not just video

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it's just not the internet and you know

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it includes publishing it includes

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writers and editors and

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and of course the investigations and the

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show host

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and and contributions from all sides and

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you really have to approach it that way

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that everybody enjoys their own form of

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media and how they get their information

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yeah and i don't believe in just

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sticking my toe in the water i jump in

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all the way

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i just feel like in order to be

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00:25:59,669 --> 00:25:57,520
successful that's what you have to do

565
00:26:01,750 --> 00:25:59,679
you have to have everything and we've

566
00:26:04,549 --> 00:26:01,760
got more things coming

567
00:26:06,230 --> 00:26:04,559
so we we're going to be launching tv in

568
00:26:08,310 --> 00:26:06,240
january

569
00:26:10,870 --> 00:26:08,320
and we're going to have a huge

570
00:26:13,269 --> 00:26:10,880
conference every year in the fall of

571
00:26:15,590 --> 00:26:13,279
every year i don't have the dates yet

572
00:26:18,789 --> 00:26:15,600
but but we'll have that out soon

573
00:26:19,990 --> 00:26:18,799
so you know i think we're going to be

574
00:26:22,549 --> 00:26:20,000
getting

575
00:26:24,950 --> 00:26:22,559
the information out there in all ways

576
00:26:27,590 --> 00:26:24,960
all methods will it'll be available to

577
00:26:30,710 --> 00:26:27,600
everybody now uh let's

578
00:26:33,029 --> 00:26:30,720
let's talk about your investigations um

579
00:26:35,350 --> 00:26:33,039
and not only with ufos but if you're an

580
00:26:36,149 --> 00:26:35,360
investigator you're an investigator

581
00:26:39,430 --> 00:26:36,159
so

582
00:26:42,710 --> 00:26:39,440
do you approach uh the paranormal and

583
00:26:47,110 --> 00:26:42,720
ufo investigations the same you would

584
00:26:49,830 --> 00:26:47,120
uh as a as a as an investigator

585
00:26:51,750 --> 00:26:49,840
yes uh most certainly do you have to be

586
00:26:53,750 --> 00:26:51,760
professional about

587
00:26:56,310 --> 00:26:53,760
everything that you do

588
00:26:58,230 --> 00:26:56,320
and i took a lot of the techniques and

589
00:26:59,590 --> 00:26:58,240
tips that i have learned as a private

590
00:27:02,870 --> 00:26:59,600
investigator

591
00:27:05,669 --> 00:27:02,880
and believe me we have to go every year

592
00:27:07,590 --> 00:27:05,679
to classes in order to renew or you

593
00:27:09,669 --> 00:27:07,600
don't get renewed

594
00:27:11,269 --> 00:27:09,679
uh to have your keep your license and i

595
00:27:12,070 --> 00:27:11,279
have been involved

596
00:27:18,710 --> 00:27:12,080
in

597
00:27:20,549 --> 00:27:18,720
but really at ed

598
00:27:22,870 --> 00:27:20,559
in private investigations since about

599
00:27:25,590 --> 00:27:22,880
1983

600
00:27:26,870 --> 00:27:25,600
and then that developed into

601
00:27:30,070 --> 00:27:26,880
also

602
00:27:32,230 --> 00:27:30,080
working with uh doing remote viewing and

603
00:27:33,110 --> 00:27:32,240
that has now become

604
00:27:34,789 --> 00:27:33,120
uh

605
00:27:36,149 --> 00:27:34,799
you know private investigations as a

606
00:27:37,269 --> 00:27:36,159
remote viewer

607
00:27:39,430 --> 00:27:37,279
so

608
00:27:41,029 --> 00:27:39,440
and and then that crosses over into the

609
00:27:43,029 --> 00:27:41,039
paranormal so if i'm doing a ufo

610
00:27:45,190 --> 00:27:43,039
investigation whatever

611
00:27:47,110 --> 00:27:45,200
i'm going to always use all the standard

612
00:27:48,950 --> 00:27:47,120
investigation techniques then we're

613
00:27:50,149 --> 00:27:48,960
going to pull out some of our things

614
00:27:52,389 --> 00:27:50,159
that we do and you follow gene

615
00:27:55,909 --> 00:27:52,399
paranormal and and get some of those

616
00:27:57,590 --> 00:27:55,919
tools out emf meters and compasses and

617
00:28:00,470 --> 00:27:57,600
trifield meters

618
00:28:03,190 --> 00:28:00,480
you name it uh special camera equipment

619
00:28:04,149 --> 00:28:03,200
things like that because

620
00:28:09,190 --> 00:28:04,159
in

621
00:28:12,230 --> 00:28:09,200
to repeat themselves

622
00:28:14,710 --> 00:28:12,240
so if i go on to a site where there's a

623
00:28:17,350 --> 00:28:14,720
lot of activity and this say a person

624
00:28:18,549 --> 00:28:17,360
has had a number of sightings we're

625
00:28:21,110 --> 00:28:18,559
going to want to bring all that

626
00:28:23,830 --> 00:28:21,120
equipment and have it on site because

627
00:28:25,990 --> 00:28:23,840
we're likely i mean i found more often

628
00:28:27,590 --> 00:28:26,000
than not going to catch something are

629
00:28:29,269 --> 00:28:27,600
going to see something

630
00:28:30,789 --> 00:28:29,279
and i can't tell you how many times i've

631
00:28:31,990 --> 00:28:30,799
walked onto

632
00:28:34,070 --> 00:28:32,000
a site

633
00:28:36,149 --> 00:28:34,080
just got out of the car didn't have time

634
00:28:38,870 --> 00:28:36,159
to set up any equipment and here comes a

635
00:28:40,950 --> 00:28:38,880
ufo flying over our heads

636
00:28:42,389 --> 00:28:40,960
it's it's it's crazy how that works but

637
00:28:43,269 --> 00:28:42,399
you just you have to be ready for

638
00:28:46,870 --> 00:28:43,279
anything

639
00:28:49,510 --> 00:28:46,880
now uh i want to talk about uh this the

640
00:28:52,789 --> 00:28:49,520
your this current case

641
00:28:55,029 --> 00:28:52,799
uh that you're working on uh in missouri

642
00:28:57,590 --> 00:28:55,039
and we'll get into the details uh in

643
00:29:01,669 --> 00:28:57,600
just a second but i want to say to the

644
00:29:03,510 --> 00:29:01,679
audience that i saw the video

645
00:29:05,510 --> 00:29:03,520
and um

646
00:29:07,269 --> 00:29:05,520
and what this object is i'll let you go

647
00:29:09,590 --> 00:29:07,279
ahead and describe everything but when i

648
00:29:11,990 --> 00:29:09,600
watched the video

649
00:29:13,669 --> 00:29:12,000
i and i see just like everybody else

650
00:29:16,230 --> 00:29:13,679
right i see a lot of videos and things

651
00:29:18,230 --> 00:29:16,240
are sent to me but this is one of the

652
00:29:21,990 --> 00:29:18,240
first videos where i sat back and

653
00:29:24,070 --> 00:29:22,000
scratched my head and said okay that

654
00:29:27,990 --> 00:29:24,080
that is interesting

655
00:29:30,310 --> 00:29:28,000
um it seems 100 authentic and then it's

656
00:29:32,070 --> 00:29:30,320
what's in the video and and what it's

657
00:29:35,590 --> 00:29:32,080
doing in the video

658
00:29:37,990 --> 00:29:35,600
uh for me was uh that's unexplainable

659
00:29:40,149 --> 00:29:38,000
that was certainly interesting

660
00:29:42,149 --> 00:29:40,159
um so i'm going to leave it to you for

661
00:29:43,029 --> 00:29:42,159
your description on it i don't want to

662
00:29:47,750 --> 00:29:43,039
uh

663
00:29:49,110 --> 00:29:47,760
audience's mind with the way that i was

664
00:29:50,230 --> 00:29:49,120
blown away

665
00:29:52,389 --> 00:29:50,240
um

666
00:29:54,630 --> 00:29:52,399
how how did how did

667
00:29:57,350 --> 00:29:54,640
where where did it take place and how

668
00:29:59,510 --> 00:29:57,360
did you get this case

669
00:30:01,110 --> 00:29:59,520
well this happened in springfield

670
00:30:02,230 --> 00:30:01,120
missouri

671
00:30:06,470 --> 00:30:02,240
and

672
00:30:07,750 --> 00:30:06,480
it was on october the 18th 2021

673
00:30:09,909 --> 00:30:07,760
when

674
00:30:11,750 --> 00:30:09,919
this person the witness and i can use

675
00:30:14,230 --> 00:30:11,760
his name because he said it's okay and

676
00:30:16,470 --> 00:30:14,240
we've already discussed it on my show

677
00:30:19,510 --> 00:30:16,480
he's an electrician his name is justin

678
00:30:21,190 --> 00:30:19,520
johnson he was driving home from work

679
00:30:23,110 --> 00:30:21,200
during rush hour

680
00:30:25,430 --> 00:30:23,120
on a very very busy street in

681
00:30:27,269 --> 00:30:25,440
springfield missouri

682
00:30:29,909 --> 00:30:27,279
and he's noticed something in the sky at

683
00:30:31,269 --> 00:30:29,919
first he thought it must be a helicopter

684
00:30:33,350 --> 00:30:31,279
but then he kept watching it and

685
00:30:35,190 --> 00:30:33,360
realized it wasn't and he couldn't

686
00:30:38,149 --> 00:30:35,200
identify what it was

687
00:30:40,310 --> 00:30:38,159
so he pulled into actually the median in

688
00:30:42,630 --> 00:30:40,320
the middle of the road

689
00:30:43,669 --> 00:30:42,640
and then got his cell phone and started

690
00:30:46,950 --> 00:30:43,679
filming

691
00:30:49,590 --> 00:30:46,960
can hear this on the video when you

692
00:30:52,389 --> 00:30:49,600
watch it he's incredulous he does not

693
00:30:54,470 --> 00:30:52,399
know what he's looking at it was it was

694
00:30:56,710 --> 00:30:54,480
he thought it was a cube shape

695
00:30:57,430 --> 00:30:56,720
now we believe

696
00:31:02,310 --> 00:30:57,440
in

697
00:31:10,549 --> 00:31:02,320
it

698
00:31:12,070 --> 00:31:10,559
okay and the weird thing about this is

699
00:31:14,230 --> 00:31:12,080
it was spinning

700
00:31:17,110 --> 00:31:14,240
and you could see the sunlight catching

701
00:31:20,389 --> 00:31:17,120
one side of it as it spun

702
00:31:23,430 --> 00:31:20,399
and it it moved very very slowly so you

703
00:31:24,950 --> 00:31:23,440
can get a good look at it the observer

704
00:31:26,710 --> 00:31:24,960
you know anybody looking at the video

705
00:31:28,710 --> 00:31:26,720
can get a good look at this but what

706
00:31:29,590 --> 00:31:28,720
happened is what you can't see in the

707
00:31:31,909 --> 00:31:29,600
video

708
00:31:34,070 --> 00:31:31,919
is it came from one direction and then

709
00:31:36,310 --> 00:31:34,080
it changed direction

710
00:31:39,430 --> 00:31:36,320
in it in like a v shape

711
00:31:41,990 --> 00:31:39,440
so came forward and then went away and

712
00:31:45,029 --> 00:31:42,000
the direction it went is a straight line

713
00:31:47,830 --> 00:31:45,039
to the springfield airport

714
00:31:50,230 --> 00:31:47,840
so eventually this thing was right over

715
00:31:51,830 --> 00:31:50,240
the springfield airport

716
00:31:54,310 --> 00:31:51,840
now he

717
00:31:56,230 --> 00:31:54,320
filed this report with mufon

718
00:31:59,269 --> 00:31:56,240
i saw it on there

719
00:32:01,990 --> 00:31:59,279
it was assigned to james bear as the uh

720
00:32:05,029 --> 00:32:02,000
primary investigator and i signed myself

721
00:32:06,950 --> 00:32:05,039
as a secondary investigator because my

722
00:32:09,909 --> 00:32:06,960
spidey sense went on

723
00:32:12,389 --> 00:32:09,919
and i and i said i need to be working on

724
00:32:13,350 --> 00:32:12,399
this case need to help out on this case

725
00:32:16,310 --> 00:32:13,360
then

726
00:32:18,950 --> 00:32:16,320
we pulled in our chief investigator for

727
00:32:20,549 --> 00:32:18,960
missouri mufon

728
00:32:22,789 --> 00:32:20,559
uh wayne lawrence

729
00:32:25,350 --> 00:32:22,799
and wayne

730
00:32:26,950 --> 00:32:25,360
among other things is is an expert at

731
00:32:29,269 --> 00:32:26,960
trigonometry

732
00:32:32,149 --> 00:32:29,279
and video analysis

733
00:32:35,590 --> 00:32:32,159
so we really needed to had this analyzed

734
00:32:37,830 --> 00:32:35,600
by an expert he was able to extract

735
00:32:41,190 --> 00:32:37,840
multiple single

736
00:32:43,269 --> 00:32:41,200
uh frames from this video which was shot

737
00:32:45,909 --> 00:32:43,279
at

738
00:32:47,750 --> 00:32:45,919
60 frames per second

739
00:32:49,830 --> 00:32:47,760
and by doing so

740
00:32:50,870 --> 00:32:49,840
some of the frames you see more than one

741
00:32:56,389 --> 00:32:50,880
object

742
00:32:58,310 --> 00:32:56,399
out or throwing a copy of itself out

743
00:32:59,029 --> 00:32:58,320
so there's there's two explanations for

744
00:32:59,909 --> 00:32:59,039
that

745
00:33:02,310 --> 00:32:59,919
one

746
00:33:05,110 --> 00:33:02,320
is that it's a trick of the eye because

747
00:33:05,909 --> 00:33:05,120
the object is moving so fast

748
00:33:07,830 --> 00:33:05,919
that

749
00:33:09,750 --> 00:33:07,840
it it just looks like there's something

750
00:33:11,029 --> 00:33:09,760
a secondary object and there really

751
00:33:13,750 --> 00:33:11,039
isn't

752
00:33:16,070 --> 00:33:13,760
or it really is duplicating itself now

753
00:33:17,110 --> 00:33:16,080
in a couple of frames there are three

754
00:33:18,310 --> 00:33:17,120
objects

755
00:33:20,389 --> 00:33:18,320
lined up

756
00:33:23,350 --> 00:33:20,399
and then in the next frame they're lined

757
00:33:25,590 --> 00:33:23,360
up in a complete different direction

758
00:33:27,669 --> 00:33:25,600
so that part is still being analyzed

759
00:33:30,230 --> 00:33:27,679
we're not sure about that

760
00:33:33,590 --> 00:33:30,240
the interesting part about this is by

761
00:33:36,070 --> 00:33:33,600
using trigonometry

762
00:33:37,669 --> 00:33:36,080
i am just going to read why don't i read

763
00:33:40,149 --> 00:33:37,679
this

764
00:33:41,750 --> 00:33:40,159
press release that i wrote

765
00:33:43,830 --> 00:33:41,760
it says everything

766
00:33:45,669 --> 00:33:43,840
electrical engineer justin johnson of

767
00:33:49,029 --> 00:33:45,679
springfield was headed home from work on

768
00:33:51,110 --> 00:33:49,039
october 18th 2021 when he spotted an

769
00:33:53,430 --> 00:33:51,120
unusual object in the sky flying

770
00:33:55,830 --> 00:33:53,440
southwest then change direction

771
00:33:57,430 --> 00:33:55,840
northwest he stopped to take video of

772
00:34:00,630 --> 00:33:57,440
the object which appears to be a

773
00:34:02,549 --> 00:34:00,640
spinning cube-shaped ufo

774
00:34:04,149 --> 00:34:02,559
justin reported his sighting of this

775
00:34:06,470 --> 00:34:04,159
strange object and submitted the

776
00:34:10,149 --> 00:34:06,480
70-second video which was taken at

777
00:34:12,149 --> 00:34:10,159
approximately 505 pm to missouri mufon

778
00:34:14,310 --> 00:34:12,159
state section director james bear is the

779
00:34:16,629 --> 00:34:14,320
lead investigator on the case with

780
00:34:18,310 --> 00:34:16,639
assistance from margie k assistant state

781
00:34:20,790 --> 00:34:18,320
director wayne lawrence chief

782
00:34:23,190 --> 00:34:20,800
investigator did the video analysis of

783
00:34:25,909 --> 00:34:23,200
the object after checking with flight

784
00:34:28,069 --> 00:34:25,919
radar 24 for any planes or helicopters

785
00:34:30,149 --> 00:34:28,079
in the air at the time the video was

786
00:34:31,030 --> 00:34:30,159
taken james determined that there were

787
00:34:32,869 --> 00:34:31,040
none

788
00:34:35,109 --> 00:34:32,879
he also checked for local balloon

789
00:34:36,389 --> 00:34:35,119
launches and bird migrations but there

790
00:34:38,069 --> 00:34:36,399
were none

791
00:34:39,990 --> 00:34:38,079
james stated that he does not believe

792
00:34:43,669 --> 00:34:40,000
this object appeared to be any type of

793
00:34:45,510 --> 00:34:43,679
drone balloon or kite

794
00:34:47,190 --> 00:34:45,520
wayne lawrence did a careful analysis of

795
00:34:48,950 --> 00:34:47,200
the object and has determined that the

796
00:34:52,389 --> 00:34:48,960
object rotates in several different

797
00:34:54,710 --> 00:34:52,399
directions along its x and y axis making

798
00:34:56,869 --> 00:34:54,720
three revolutions per second or about

799
00:34:58,630 --> 00:34:56,879
180 rpm

800
00:35:01,349 --> 00:34:58,640
and at times two or three exact

801
00:35:03,510 --> 00:35:01,359
duplicate objects appear in the video

802
00:35:06,150 --> 00:35:03,520
the sky is clear and the sun reflects

803
00:35:08,550 --> 00:35:06,160
off of the object using trigonometry and

804
00:35:10,870 --> 00:35:08,560
the known angle and likely location over

805
00:35:12,790 --> 00:35:10,880
the regional airport wayne was able to

806
00:35:16,710 --> 00:35:12,800
determine the size of the object to be

807
00:35:19,109 --> 00:35:16,720
approximately 87 feet in width roughly

808
00:35:22,630 --> 00:35:19,119
the length of a regional airliner and

809
00:35:24,870 --> 00:35:22,640
the altitude at 15 000 feet

810
00:35:26,710 --> 00:35:24,880
we continue to investigate this case now

811
00:35:28,630 --> 00:35:26,720
there's other one other important thing

812
00:35:30,630 --> 00:35:28,640
i want to add to this that was not in

813
00:35:33,829 --> 00:35:30,640
that press release and that is that

814
00:35:36,310 --> 00:35:33,839
since i've spoken to an ex-military

815
00:35:39,349 --> 00:35:36,320
drone designer

816
00:35:41,829 --> 00:35:39,359
who worked on drones for 20 years

817
00:35:42,829 --> 00:35:41,839
and he said there is no way that a drone

818
00:35:45,109 --> 00:35:42,839
can

819
00:35:47,910 --> 00:35:45,119
spin and and they would not the

820
00:35:52,069 --> 00:35:47,920
designing of that would be a nightmare

821
00:35:53,589 --> 00:35:52,079
so we can uh positively eliminate that

822
00:35:57,589 --> 00:35:53,599
i'm watching the video now i've been

823
00:35:59,589 --> 00:35:57,599
watching it and uh listening uh to your

824
00:36:00,630 --> 00:35:59,599
information on this it's a fascinating

825
00:36:03,270 --> 00:36:00,640
video

826
00:36:04,950 --> 00:36:03,280
um i popped it up it it's in twitter

827
00:36:07,270 --> 00:36:04,960
everybody can go and watch the video

828
00:36:08,230 --> 00:36:07,280
there and i've got it up in uh the chat

829
00:36:10,870 --> 00:36:08,240
rooms

830
00:36:12,390 --> 00:36:10,880
um a couple of questions that i have and

831
00:36:14,870 --> 00:36:12,400
listening to his reaction

832
00:36:18,230 --> 00:36:14,880
by the way i've got the audio muted but

833
00:36:20,390 --> 00:36:18,240
uh listening to his reaction was very i

834
00:36:22,950 --> 00:36:20,400
he reacted the way i think anybody would

835
00:36:24,630 --> 00:36:22,960
when uh seeing something like this uh

836
00:36:27,910 --> 00:36:24,640
okay now uh

837
00:36:29,589 --> 00:36:27,920
i how uh two two quick questions we'll

838
00:36:31,349 --> 00:36:29,599
go to the break and then uh we'll pick

839
00:36:36,230 --> 00:36:31,359
up when we come back

840
00:36:39,510 --> 00:36:36,240
any idea of of distance uh away from his

841
00:36:42,550 --> 00:36:39,520
vehicle and yeah altitude

842
00:36:44,550 --> 00:36:42,560
seven miles and fifteen thousand feet

843
00:36:45,990 --> 00:36:44,560
altitude

844
00:36:47,190 --> 00:36:46,000
in this video

845
00:36:50,310 --> 00:36:47,200
yes

846
00:36:54,310 --> 00:36:50,320
so seven miles so what how how big is

847
00:36:55,910 --> 00:36:54,320
this object it's big it's 87 feet did

848
00:36:57,750 --> 00:36:55,920
you say all of that while i was watching

849
00:37:00,230 --> 00:36:57,760
the video yes

850
00:37:01,589 --> 00:37:00,240
you weren't listening i am i am i'm

851
00:37:04,550 --> 00:37:01,599
blown away

852
00:37:07,829 --> 00:37:04,560
i can't i know i can't take my eyes off

853
00:37:11,510 --> 00:37:07,839
of this now can you imagine this here is

854
00:37:14,230 --> 00:37:11,520
a spectacular video of ufo and the press

855
00:37:17,990 --> 00:37:14,240
release i sent out on november the 6th

856
00:37:20,870 --> 00:37:18,000
zero reaction from the media

857
00:37:21,990 --> 00:37:20,880
zero they're not going to show this

858
00:37:23,589 --> 00:37:22,000
they're not going to cover it any

859
00:37:25,430 --> 00:37:23,599
further now it was in

860
00:37:27,270 --> 00:37:25,440
the local media it was in the

861
00:37:29,109 --> 00:37:27,280
springfield and some other places picked

862
00:37:30,550 --> 00:37:29,119
it up some

863
00:37:35,990 --> 00:37:30,560
some of the

864
00:37:37,670 --> 00:37:36,000
and some blogs picked it up but that's

865
00:37:39,670 --> 00:37:37,680
it it's not on national news this should

866
00:37:41,510 --> 00:37:39,680
be on national news yes

867
00:37:43,030 --> 00:37:41,520
yeah that's incredible that's incredible

868
00:37:44,630 --> 00:37:43,040
and uh

869
00:37:46,550 --> 00:37:44,640
now what about uh the airport the

870
00:37:48,310 --> 00:37:46,560
springfield airport

871
00:37:49,270 --> 00:37:48,320
yeah that's where it was it was right

872
00:37:51,589 --> 00:37:49,280
over it

873
00:37:54,230 --> 00:37:51,599
but uh air traffic control any kind of

874
00:37:56,470 --> 00:37:54,240
no no we checked flight flight radar 24.

875
00:37:59,430 --> 00:37:56,480
we know the exact time that he took the

876
00:38:01,430 --> 00:37:59,440
video and during that time flight radar

877
00:38:04,390 --> 00:38:01,440
has got all of the records for every

878
00:38:06,390 --> 00:38:04,400
flight every you know every type of

879
00:38:08,630 --> 00:38:06,400
airplane or helicopter going up in the

880
00:38:11,750 --> 00:38:08,640
air and there's nothing and like i said

881
00:38:13,670 --> 00:38:11,760
there are also no balloon launches

882
00:38:17,910 --> 00:38:13,680
so we know what it wasn't we just don't

883
00:38:18,750 --> 00:38:17,920
know what it was yeah and uh now the

884
00:38:21,910 --> 00:38:18,760
the

885
00:38:25,109 --> 00:38:21,920
multi-faceted uh part of this is pretty

886
00:38:26,310 --> 00:38:25,119
interesting i i always felt that it was

887
00:38:28,870 --> 00:38:26,320
a cube

888
00:38:31,270 --> 00:38:28,880
but i haven't i haven't slowed this down

889
00:38:34,150 --> 00:38:31,280
and looked at it but i always the naked

890
00:38:36,630 --> 00:38:34,160
eye and at regular speed it looks like a

891
00:38:39,510 --> 00:38:36,640
cube but when you when you take some

892
00:38:43,990 --> 00:38:39,520
stills it's got multiple sides so is it

893
00:38:48,150 --> 00:38:45,990
well yeah yeah because there are corners

894
00:38:50,069 --> 00:38:48,160
that jut out right right right so i'm

895
00:38:52,950 --> 00:38:50,079
saying it's a dodecahedron which means

896
00:38:54,710 --> 00:38:52,960
12 sides 12 side and is that the other

897
00:38:56,069 --> 00:38:54,720
investigators think it's it's either

898
00:38:58,470 --> 00:38:56,079
that or maybe

899
00:38:59,510 --> 00:38:58,480
something's uh not without so many sides

900
00:39:03,510 --> 00:38:59,520
but

901
00:39:05,430 --> 00:39:03,520
so this is 15 000 feet

902
00:39:09,349 --> 00:39:05,440
yeah

903
00:39:12,710 --> 00:39:10,870
that's incredible

904
00:39:14,790 --> 00:39:12,720
how long how long was the entire

905
00:39:16,950 --> 00:39:14,800
sighting i know the video itself is a

906
00:39:19,510 --> 00:39:16,960
minute and 14 seconds

907
00:39:20,710 --> 00:39:19,520
yeah it was uh he said about three

908
00:39:25,750 --> 00:39:20,720
minutes

909
00:39:27,670 --> 00:39:25,760
and and it flew in a v shape

910
00:39:29,910 --> 00:39:27,680
and a v-shape yeah it came towards him

911
00:39:31,349 --> 00:39:29,920
and then it went away from him

912
00:39:33,430 --> 00:39:31,359
so that's what he was saying was a

913
00:39:36,310 --> 00:39:33,440
v-shaped pattern now some people

914
00:39:38,230 --> 00:39:36,320
in his mufon statement

915
00:39:40,710 --> 00:39:38,240
it kind of sounded like he thought the

916
00:39:43,349 --> 00:39:40,720
object was v-shaped but that's not what

917
00:39:44,710 --> 00:39:43,359
he meant at all he meant that it flew in

918
00:39:46,630 --> 00:39:44,720
a v pattern

919
00:39:49,109 --> 00:39:46,640
that the object is is a cube and now

920
00:39:51,829 --> 00:39:49,119
what's interesting i did some research

921
00:39:54,630 --> 00:39:51,839
to find if there were any other similar

922
00:39:57,510 --> 00:39:54,640
sightings and lo and behold in cleveland

923
00:39:58,550 --> 00:39:57,520
ohio on october the 19th the very next

924
00:40:00,470 --> 00:39:58,560
day

925
00:40:03,190 --> 00:40:00,480
there was a video taken and that

926
00:40:05,510 --> 00:40:03,200
gentleman sent me that video

927
00:40:07,109 --> 00:40:05,520
and it appeared to him like it started

928
00:40:08,230 --> 00:40:07,119
out as a cube and then turned into a

929
00:40:09,030 --> 00:40:08,240
circle

930
00:40:11,270 --> 00:40:09,040
but

931
00:40:13,589 --> 00:40:11,280
and the video is not as good as this

932
00:40:14,470 --> 00:40:13,599
first uh witness got

933
00:40:16,230 --> 00:40:14,480
but

934
00:40:19,270 --> 00:40:16,240
we're we're going to analyze that too

935
00:40:21,829 --> 00:40:19,280
but again that's in ohio so ohio mufon

936
00:40:23,109 --> 00:40:21,839
is going to be investigating that

937
00:40:25,510 --> 00:40:23,119
and uh

938
00:40:27,430 --> 00:40:25,520
as we head to the break is has there

939
00:40:31,190 --> 00:40:27,440
been an increase

940
00:40:33,589 --> 00:40:31,200
of sightings in missouri

941
00:40:36,230 --> 00:40:33,599
there has been of late now we've had our

942
00:40:37,670 --> 00:40:36,240
up and downs we've had flaps and then

943
00:40:40,230 --> 00:40:37,680
and then lulls

944
00:40:43,270 --> 00:40:40,240
and right now we're going up in in

945
00:40:45,750 --> 00:40:43,280
number of sightings and and i would say

946
00:40:49,109 --> 00:40:45,760
number of credible

947
00:40:51,109 --> 00:40:49,119
good sightings with evidence

948
00:40:53,030 --> 00:40:51,119
and that is going up and that a lot of

949
00:40:54,870 --> 00:40:53,040
that has to do with the fact that

950
00:40:56,230 --> 00:40:54,880
people have a cell phone in their hand

951
00:40:58,309 --> 00:40:56,240
all the time

952
00:41:01,270 --> 00:40:58,319
and so they're able to click on that

953
00:41:03,589 --> 00:41:01,280
video and take video

954
00:41:05,750 --> 00:41:03,599
and and also we have hot spots

955
00:41:08,069 --> 00:41:05,760
everywhere of course but in missouri we

956
00:41:09,990 --> 00:41:08,079
have hot spots and right now our hot

957
00:41:12,069 --> 00:41:10,000
spot is springfield

958
00:41:13,990 --> 00:41:12,079
i just got on the cms today and i found

959
00:41:16,550 --> 00:41:14,000
eight other cases in springfield that

960
00:41:18,390 --> 00:41:16,560
are open cases being worked on right now

961
00:41:20,710 --> 00:41:18,400
and we'll talk about all of that when we

962
00:41:22,870 --> 00:41:20,720
come back this is uh absolutely

963
00:41:24,630 --> 00:41:22,880
fascinating and i'm watching uh

964
00:41:27,829 --> 00:41:24,640
everybody's comments about this too as

965
00:41:29,349 --> 00:41:27,839
well it's a very very intriguing video

966
00:41:33,190 --> 00:41:29,359
um uh

967
00:41:36,550 --> 00:41:33,200
how is i just got 60 seconds margie

968
00:41:39,670 --> 00:41:36,560
um johnson the electrician

969
00:41:42,710 --> 00:41:39,680
how's his demeanor and and his

970
00:41:43,510 --> 00:41:42,720
not credibility is oh yeah but but but

971
00:41:45,430 --> 00:41:43,520
how

972
00:41:46,790 --> 00:41:45,440
you're a private investigator you read

973
00:41:48,870 --> 00:41:46,800
people

974
00:41:51,670 --> 00:41:48,880
now he's very credible

975
00:41:54,309 --> 00:41:51,680
first of all the reaction on the video

976
00:41:56,230 --> 00:41:54,319
is genuine right that's number one

977
00:41:59,349 --> 00:41:56,240
number two i've spoken with him at

978
00:42:02,150 --> 00:41:59,359
length he's very intelligent he's very

979
00:42:04,710 --> 00:42:02,160
credible this is not a hoax it's an

980
00:42:07,349 --> 00:42:04,720
incredible video and i've i've got it up

981
00:42:09,910 --> 00:42:07,359
in in twitter social media it's also

982
00:42:12,309 --> 00:42:09,920
over on margie's facebook too as well

983
00:42:14,870 --> 00:42:12,319
and i've got it up in the chat rooms i

984
00:42:17,270 --> 00:42:14,880
want to uh get everybody's comments and

985
00:42:19,109 --> 00:42:17,280
input on it this is fade to black i am

986
00:42:21,270 --> 00:42:19,119
your host jimmy church tonight the one

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and only margie k

988
00:42:25,510 --> 00:42:23,599
is on my program

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that's what i'm thankful for i'm your

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host jimmy church this is fade to black

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remind everybody yeah thanksgiving is

1100
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thursday everybody's going to have

1101
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dinner and then and when you're done if

1102
00:48:18,069 --> 00:48:15,359
you want to hang out i'm going to be

1103
00:48:20,069 --> 00:48:18,079
here in the bunker after dinner

1104
00:48:21,510 --> 00:48:20,079
uh hanging out with all of you and uh

1105
00:48:24,069 --> 00:48:21,520
taking your phone calls all night long

1106
00:48:27,270 --> 00:48:24,079
to see what you are thankful for

1107
00:48:29,190 --> 00:48:27,280
it's probably ufos and disclosure i'm

1108
00:48:31,750 --> 00:48:29,200
thankful for that but tonight i guess

1109
00:48:33,270 --> 00:48:31,760
smart gk we're talking about the midwest

1110
00:48:35,990 --> 00:48:33,280
and ufos

1111
00:48:38,390 --> 00:48:36,000
and i want to start uh with uh the great

1112
00:48:41,030 --> 00:48:38,400
state of missouri and

1113
00:48:42,150 --> 00:48:41,040
but the the general question is this we

1114
00:48:44,390 --> 00:48:42,160
know about

1115
00:48:47,190 --> 00:48:44,400
uh the the amount of sightings in

1116
00:48:51,750 --> 00:48:47,200
california and the west coast washington

1117
00:48:52,630 --> 00:48:51,760
portland uh texas uh florida uh the east

1118
00:48:53,750 --> 00:48:52,640
coast

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but i

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i

1121
00:49:01,829 --> 00:48:58,640
people

1122
00:49:03,510 --> 00:49:01,839
right we're seeing things in the sky

1123
00:49:06,150 --> 00:49:03,520
there isn't as many reports in the

1124
00:49:08,309 --> 00:49:06,160
midwest because there's not the

1125
00:49:10,150 --> 00:49:08,319
population that we have on the coast

1126
00:49:12,549 --> 00:49:10,160
would you say that that is probably the

1127
00:49:16,390 --> 00:49:12,559
case oh a hundred percent that's the

1128
00:49:18,790 --> 00:49:16,400
case but there are some hot spots that

1129
00:49:21,190 --> 00:49:18,800
uh are have an abnormal number and

1130
00:49:23,750 --> 00:49:21,200
missouri is one of those spots where

1131
00:49:26,230 --> 00:49:23,760
it's consistently in the top ten and and

1132
00:49:27,510 --> 00:49:26,240
sometimes in a top three or four for the

1133
00:49:29,430 --> 00:49:27,520
for the nation

1134
00:49:30,390 --> 00:49:29,440
and and why do you think that is that's

1135
00:49:31,750 --> 00:49:30,400
interesting

1136
00:49:33,670 --> 00:49:31,760
you know everybody asked me that

1137
00:49:35,750 --> 00:49:33,680
question there there are a host of

1138
00:49:37,430 --> 00:49:35,760
reasons why that could be we have a lot

1139
00:49:40,230 --> 00:49:37,440
of water sources

1140
00:49:42,150 --> 00:49:40,240
and we think that ufos probably use

1141
00:49:44,069 --> 00:49:42,160
water uh take the hydrogen from the

1142
00:49:46,950 --> 00:49:44,079
water for fuel or you know other

1143
00:49:49,910 --> 00:49:46,960
purposes right we've got places to hide

1144
00:49:52,470 --> 00:49:49,920
a lot of big lakes a lot of big rivers

1145
00:49:55,030 --> 00:49:52,480
missouri river mississippi river places

1146
00:49:56,470 --> 00:49:55,040
to hide and we really do feel that there

1147
00:49:59,349 --> 00:49:56,480
are several places where there are some

1148
00:50:00,950 --> 00:49:59,359
underground bases one of them being in

1149
00:50:03,510 --> 00:50:00,960
near kansas city

1150
00:50:06,790 --> 00:50:03,520
in a in a large lake because we've got

1151
00:50:08,870 --> 00:50:06,800
some overhead satellite photos

1152
00:50:10,230 --> 00:50:08,880
uh thanks to google

1153
00:50:12,230 --> 00:50:10,240
and uh

1154
00:50:14,870 --> 00:50:12,240
there there's some square and

1155
00:50:16,870 --> 00:50:14,880
rectangular things underneath the water

1156
00:50:19,829 --> 00:50:16,880
and there shouldn't be there that's not

1157
00:50:20,870 --> 00:50:19,839
that's not natural and so

1158
00:50:22,710 --> 00:50:20,880
now there's a lot of things to

1159
00:50:24,630 --> 00:50:22,720
investigate but now look we've got

1160
00:50:26,870 --> 00:50:24,640
whiteman air force base

1161
00:50:29,349 --> 00:50:26,880
right in the middle of the state uh what

1162
00:50:30,390 --> 00:50:29,359
north you know in warrensburg

1163
00:50:32,630 --> 00:50:30,400
uh

1164
00:50:35,670 --> 00:50:32,640
there are caves we're known as the cave

1165
00:50:37,910 --> 00:50:35,680
state there's at least 250 caves in our

1166
00:50:40,630 --> 00:50:37,920
state some of them are huge and go

1167
00:50:43,270 --> 00:50:40,640
underground for miles and they're used

1168
00:50:44,470 --> 00:50:43,280
for storage facilities and big 18

1169
00:50:46,230 --> 00:50:44,480
wheelers

1170
00:50:47,430 --> 00:50:46,240
go in these caves and just drive into

1171
00:50:50,790 --> 00:50:47,440
them well we've had a number of

1172
00:50:53,349 --> 00:50:50,800
sightings around those caves

1173
00:50:56,230 --> 00:50:53,359
okay so i have two comments

1174
00:50:58,710 --> 00:50:56,240
one i've seen some of the imaging of the

1175
00:51:00,870 --> 00:50:58,720
cave system in the 18 wheelers and what

1176
00:51:04,150 --> 00:51:00,880
goes on underground

1177
00:51:08,309 --> 00:51:04,160
and that is bleeping insane

1178
00:51:09,430 --> 00:51:08,319
it is i had i had no idea and i watched

1179
00:51:13,190 --> 00:51:09,440
uh

1180
00:51:16,470 --> 00:51:13,200
if it's like an undercover video right

1181
00:51:18,950 --> 00:51:16,480
and uh this trucker uh shooting

1182
00:51:19,670 --> 00:51:18,960
uh uh him parking a vehicle under and

1183
00:51:22,150 --> 00:51:19,680
i'm

1184
00:51:25,349 --> 00:51:22,160
looking like that's like that's like

1185
00:51:27,430 --> 00:51:25,359
five walmart parking lots right it's

1186
00:51:29,430 --> 00:51:27,440
it's ginormous and

1187
00:51:31,670 --> 00:51:29,440
and until you've seen it you you

1188
00:51:33,670 --> 00:51:31,680
wouldn't believe it uh it's incredible

1189
00:51:36,710 --> 00:51:33,680
and then but the other part

1190
00:51:40,549 --> 00:51:36,720
is whiteman i've driven by whiteman many

1191
00:51:44,390 --> 00:51:40,559
many times you see it for miles away

1192
00:51:46,710 --> 00:51:44,400
it is a huge air force base and

1193
00:51:49,430 --> 00:51:46,720
uh i would definitely think that that's

1194
00:51:51,430 --> 00:51:49,440
that's related to sightings for sure

1195
00:51:53,190 --> 00:51:51,440
oh it is there have been a number of

1196
00:51:56,069 --> 00:51:53,200
sightings usually

1197
00:51:59,190 --> 00:51:56,079
the triangular objects are seen near

1198
00:52:01,510 --> 00:51:59,200
whiteman and i am of the opinion that

1199
00:52:03,829 --> 00:52:01,520
those are something of ours

1200
00:52:05,910 --> 00:52:03,839
and perhaps something was reverse

1201
00:52:07,750 --> 00:52:05,920
engineered but

1202
00:52:10,069 --> 00:52:07,760
really there's just too many sightings

1203
00:52:13,349 --> 00:52:10,079
around white men now as an investigator

1204
00:52:15,109 --> 00:52:13,359
for mufon uh you're you're probably just

1205
00:52:17,349 --> 00:52:15,119
like me but you're always looking up at

1206
00:52:18,630 --> 00:52:17,359
the sky you just never know day daytime

1207
00:52:21,750 --> 00:52:18,640
nighttime it doesn't matter you're

1208
00:52:24,470 --> 00:52:21,760
always looking yeah um and i remember uh

1209
00:52:27,990 --> 00:52:24,480
we did a show a number of years ago

1210
00:52:30,069 --> 00:52:28,000
uh on this subject in drones and and

1211
00:52:31,030 --> 00:52:30,079
triangular objects

1212
00:52:33,430 --> 00:52:31,040
um

1213
00:52:35,109 --> 00:52:33,440
how often does this happen in and i know

1214
00:52:37,030 --> 00:52:35,119
that the drone sightings is something

1215
00:52:39,430 --> 00:52:37,040
that you've catalogued but

1216
00:52:41,990 --> 00:52:39,440
are you monitoring that how often uh are

1217
00:52:45,109 --> 00:52:42,000
triangles seen

1218
00:52:48,390 --> 00:52:45,119
all the triangles yes gosh we we get at

1219
00:52:50,309 --> 00:52:48,400
least one a month if not two or three

1220
00:52:52,630 --> 00:52:50,319
across the state

1221
00:52:54,950 --> 00:52:52,640
and i know other states have the same

1222
00:52:57,510 --> 00:52:54,960
thing states that are nearby at least

1223
00:52:59,349 --> 00:52:57,520
that many now the drones those are more

1224
00:53:01,910 --> 00:52:59,359
difficult

1225
00:53:04,150 --> 00:53:01,920
but they do have certain behaviors

1226
00:53:05,910 --> 00:53:04,160
if they are a legitimate drone they've

1227
00:53:07,750 --> 00:53:05,920
got to have the standard navigation

1228
00:53:09,030 --> 00:53:07,760
lights on them

1229
00:53:10,630 --> 00:53:09,040
and

1230
00:53:12,069 --> 00:53:10,640
they also have

1231
00:53:13,510 --> 00:53:12,079
the uh

1232
00:53:14,390 --> 00:53:13,520
not the black box but they've got the

1233
00:53:16,870 --> 00:53:14,400
navigation

1234
00:53:19,589 --> 00:53:16,880
signal that's is sent out

1235
00:53:21,190 --> 00:53:19,599
so it can be traced that way

1236
00:53:23,430 --> 00:53:21,200
and then

1237
00:53:25,589 --> 00:53:23,440
they behave in certain ways they can't

1238
00:53:27,750 --> 00:53:25,599
they can't do certain things like

1239
00:53:30,069 --> 00:53:27,760
move at a 90 degree angle at a high rate

1240
00:53:31,990 --> 00:53:30,079
of speed instantly

1241
00:53:34,309 --> 00:53:32,000
you know just like a plane

1242
00:53:35,430 --> 00:53:34,319
they've got to make a curve to to make

1243
00:53:37,670 --> 00:53:35,440
that turn

1244
00:53:38,710 --> 00:53:37,680
now they can stop on a dime and then

1245
00:53:41,589 --> 00:53:38,720
they can

1246
00:53:43,190 --> 00:53:41,599
and do it

1247
00:53:46,069 --> 00:53:43,200
so there are things that we look for

1248
00:53:48,309 --> 00:53:46,079
with the drones and it's unfortunate i

1249
00:53:49,829 --> 00:53:48,319
wish there weren't so many because

1250
00:53:52,470 --> 00:53:49,839
you know they do cause some sighting

1251
00:53:56,470 --> 00:53:52,480
reports yeah and you've got to eliminate

1252
00:53:59,270 --> 00:53:56,480
uh the drones from from something else

1253
00:54:01,670 --> 00:53:59,280
yeah yeah and uh now let's let's talk

1254
00:54:03,990 --> 00:54:01,680
about some cases in missouri you said

1255
00:54:04,950 --> 00:54:04,000
that uh springfield right now is a hot

1256
00:54:07,349 --> 00:54:04,960
spot

1257
00:54:09,750 --> 00:54:07,359
and you said how many cases were just

1258
00:54:11,670 --> 00:54:09,760
reported in springfield yeah i believe

1259
00:54:15,190 --> 00:54:11,680
there's about eight right now that are

1260
00:54:17,670 --> 00:54:15,200
that are open cases from the last month

1261
00:54:19,670 --> 00:54:17,680
so that's that seems to be a focus of a

1262
00:54:21,270 --> 00:54:19,680
hospital now springfield is right near

1263
00:54:22,150 --> 00:54:21,280
branson

1264
00:54:25,349 --> 00:54:22,160
and

1265
00:54:27,109 --> 00:54:25,359
of course the lake is right there

1266
00:54:28,790 --> 00:54:27,119
and there are a lot have been a lot of

1267
00:54:31,349 --> 00:54:28,800
sightings in and out of that lake in

1268
00:54:33,270 --> 00:54:31,359
fact i've got i've got one

1269
00:54:34,790 --> 00:54:33,280
that is really interesting case from

1270
00:54:36,789 --> 00:54:34,800
last year

1271
00:54:39,670 --> 00:54:36,799
where the person

1272
00:54:41,030 --> 00:54:39,680
was taking pictures of the branson bill

1273
00:54:44,870 --> 00:54:41,040
riverboat

1274
00:54:46,470 --> 00:54:44,880
anything and this is during the day and

1275
00:54:48,069 --> 00:54:46,480
then when he developed the pictures i

1276
00:54:49,190 --> 00:54:48,079
went not developing he looked at the

1277
00:54:51,510 --> 00:54:49,200
pictures

1278
00:54:54,230 --> 00:54:51,520
there's this object and it is it's got

1279
00:54:56,230 --> 00:54:54,240
multiple sides to it similar to this

1280
00:54:58,230 --> 00:54:56,240
object it was just seen right it's got

1281
00:54:59,109 --> 00:54:58,240
multiple sides and it's a turquoise it

1282
00:55:01,990 --> 00:54:59,119
color

1283
00:55:04,230 --> 00:55:02,000
very very strange and there it is

1284
00:55:06,390 --> 00:55:04,240
hovering right next to the branson bell

1285
00:55:07,750 --> 00:55:06,400
but he did not see it with the naked eye

1286
00:55:10,150 --> 00:55:07,760
and that this is something else that's

1287
00:55:12,630 --> 00:55:10,160
common because the cameras pick up more

1288
00:55:15,030 --> 00:55:12,640
of the light spectrum than the eye does

1289
00:55:17,270 --> 00:55:15,040
than the naked eye does so sometimes you

1290
00:55:19,750 --> 00:55:17,280
will see some things in your pictures

1291
00:55:22,710 --> 00:55:19,760
so that would explain the abandoned

1292
00:55:23,589 --> 00:55:22,720
mansions in in branson

1293
00:55:24,390 --> 00:55:23,599
oh

1294
00:55:26,470 --> 00:55:24,400
no

1295
00:55:29,750 --> 00:55:26,480
i don't think that explains it they they

1296
00:55:32,230 --> 00:55:29,760
blame that on the 2008 economic crash

1297
00:55:33,910 --> 00:55:32,240
it's the ufo sightings in the lake there

1298
00:55:36,390 --> 00:55:33,920
i want to go buy me a couple of those

1299
00:55:37,430 --> 00:55:36,400
mansions uh it's uh

1300
00:55:39,510 --> 00:55:37,440
you should you should take the

1301
00:55:41,750 --> 00:55:39,520
opportunity to do it

1302
00:55:45,510 --> 00:55:41,760
i hear it's a buyer's market

1303
00:55:47,109 --> 00:55:45,520
um now uh what what types of craft let's

1304
00:55:49,430 --> 00:55:47,119
focus on uh

1305
00:55:52,630 --> 00:55:49,440
what's happening like right now

1306
00:55:55,190 --> 00:55:52,640
uh in these eight to ten uh recent cases

1307
00:55:56,870 --> 00:55:55,200
what type of craft are we talking about

1308
00:55:59,829 --> 00:55:56,880
i think well i was just looking at it

1309
00:56:03,510 --> 00:55:59,839
glancing at it earlier uh there are

1310
00:56:05,349 --> 00:56:03,520
three that are triangles

1311
00:56:08,549 --> 00:56:05,359
there are

1312
00:56:10,789 --> 00:56:08,559
a couple that are spheres

1313
00:56:12,150 --> 00:56:10,799
and and just round and then there are

1314
00:56:13,990 --> 00:56:12,160
some that are

1315
00:56:16,549 --> 00:56:14,000
glowing lights

1316
00:56:17,510 --> 00:56:16,559
and these are things that are low to the

1317
00:56:19,910 --> 00:56:17,520
ground

1318
00:56:21,910 --> 00:56:19,920
not high up in the sky

1319
00:56:23,109 --> 00:56:21,920
and these and the and we just seem to

1320
00:56:26,150 --> 00:56:23,119
have

1321
00:56:27,030 --> 00:56:26,160
an enormous number of siding reports of

1322
00:56:28,309 --> 00:56:27,040
these

1323
00:56:31,030 --> 00:56:28,319
glowing

1324
00:56:32,069 --> 00:56:31,040
balls of light any anywhere from teeny

1325
00:56:35,270 --> 00:56:32,079
tiny

1326
00:56:37,829 --> 00:56:35,280
to basketball size or or larger

1327
00:56:40,950 --> 00:56:37,839
and they're they're reported as

1328
00:56:43,190 --> 00:56:40,960
orange fireballs red fireballs that

1329
00:56:46,069 --> 00:56:43,200
actually look like a flame

1330
00:56:48,150 --> 00:56:46,079
i have one case where

1331
00:56:50,630 --> 00:56:48,160
one of these cases happens to be my

1332
00:56:53,190 --> 00:56:50,640
employee who has never seen anything in

1333
00:56:55,430 --> 00:56:53,200
his life he's just a contractor you know

1334
00:56:56,950 --> 00:56:55,440
and he he doesn't see things he called

1335
00:56:59,349 --> 00:56:56,960
me up one night he says you will not

1336
00:57:00,309 --> 00:56:59,359
believe what i saw and i got video

1337
00:57:02,230 --> 00:57:00,319
two

1338
00:57:04,230 --> 00:57:02,240
objects that were like just looked like

1339
00:57:06,549 --> 00:57:04,240
a flame in the sky

1340
00:57:08,230 --> 00:57:06,559
following one behind the other and then

1341
00:57:10,150 --> 00:57:08,240
they danced around each other for a

1342
00:57:13,109 --> 00:57:10,160
while and went up and down and then they

1343
00:57:15,349 --> 00:57:13,119
went in a straight line north

1344
00:57:17,270 --> 00:57:15,359
towards sugar creek which is right

1345
00:57:19,750 --> 00:57:17,280
towards the missouri river

1346
00:57:22,069 --> 00:57:19,760
and coincidentally there was another

1347
00:57:25,670 --> 00:57:22,079
witness that reported on the same

1348
00:57:28,069 --> 00:57:25,680
evening seeing a single fireball

1349
00:57:30,390 --> 00:57:28,079
heading right past her house towards the

1350
00:57:31,750 --> 00:57:30,400
missouri river at the same time so she

1351
00:57:34,069 --> 00:57:31,760
had the same

1352
00:57:37,190 --> 00:57:34,079
sighting that he did

1353
00:57:39,030 --> 00:57:37,200
now what these flames are i don't know

1354
00:57:41,589 --> 00:57:39,040
the balls of light

1355
00:57:43,430 --> 00:57:41,599
some people say their spirits some

1356
00:57:45,910 --> 00:57:43,440
people say they're

1357
00:57:49,030 --> 00:57:45,920
probes from an et craft from a larger

1358
00:57:51,829 --> 00:57:49,040
craft coming down to check things out

1359
00:57:54,630 --> 00:57:51,839
i don't know it's just it's bizarre

1360
00:57:55,670 --> 00:57:54,640
so you've got you've got uh

1361
00:57:57,990 --> 00:57:55,680
orbs

1362
00:58:00,069 --> 00:57:58,000
you've got some kind of uh

1363
00:58:01,829 --> 00:58:00,079
inter-dimensional thing going on and you

1364
00:58:03,910 --> 00:58:01,839
have triangles

1365
00:58:05,990 --> 00:58:03,920
in in a month

1366
00:58:10,710 --> 00:58:06,000
in springfield

1367
00:58:13,030 --> 00:58:10,720
springfield

1368
00:58:15,829 --> 00:58:13,040
the well if you want to see ufos branson

1369
00:58:17,510 --> 00:58:15,839
springfield is is a hot spot so it has

1370
00:58:18,470 --> 00:58:17,520
been and and

1371
00:58:21,670 --> 00:58:18,480
what

1372
00:58:23,349 --> 00:58:21,680
how do you explain uh to yourself not to

1373
00:58:25,270 --> 00:58:23,359
somebody else but to yourself what is

1374
00:58:28,390 --> 00:58:25,280
ultimately going on

1375
00:58:29,990 --> 00:58:28,400
uh the the triangles is one thing but

1376
00:58:32,470 --> 00:58:30,000
when you have this

1377
00:58:33,670 --> 00:58:32,480
uh these lights

1378
00:58:36,069 --> 00:58:33,680
right that

1379
00:58:38,309 --> 00:58:36,079
may not even be physical there's

1380
00:58:40,789 --> 00:58:38,319
something else that is projecting this

1381
00:58:42,870 --> 00:58:40,799
there's some other energy behind it what

1382
00:58:43,910 --> 00:58:42,880
do you think is going on

1383
00:58:47,270 --> 00:58:43,920
well

1384
00:58:48,150 --> 00:58:47,280
some of the lights uh can be explained

1385
00:58:53,109 --> 00:58:48,160
as

1386
00:58:55,349 --> 00:58:53,119
lights which people see

1387
00:58:57,589 --> 00:58:55,359
before an earthquake and they think it's

1388
00:59:00,150 --> 00:58:57,599
some some type of energy that's emitted

1389
00:59:02,390 --> 00:59:00,160
from the earth and it's a natural thing

1390
00:59:05,430 --> 00:59:02,400
then we get into things like the joplin

1391
00:59:07,349 --> 00:59:05,440
spook light that has been seen for 200

1392
00:59:10,470 --> 00:59:07,359
years at least

1393
00:59:12,470 --> 00:59:10,480
in this area before there were cars

1394
00:59:15,109 --> 00:59:12,480
and i've seen it myself i've witnessed

1395
00:59:17,349 --> 00:59:15,119
it myself it it appears in the distance

1396
00:59:19,430 --> 00:59:17,359
on the oklahoma side and then comes

1397
00:59:21,670 --> 00:59:19,440
towards the missouri side

1398
00:59:23,829 --> 00:59:21,680
and on this little stretch of road out

1399
00:59:24,710 --> 00:59:23,839
in the middle of nowhere

1400
00:59:26,309 --> 00:59:24,720
uh

1401
00:59:27,750 --> 00:59:26,319
you know famously

1402
00:59:29,190 --> 00:59:27,760
called the joplin spook light even

1403
00:59:31,589 --> 00:59:29,200
though it i don't know it's about 40

1404
00:59:33,430 --> 00:59:31,599
miles from joplin

1405
00:59:35,990 --> 00:59:33,440
and here is this ball of light that

1406
00:59:38,069 --> 00:59:36,000
disappears and some people

1407
00:59:41,030 --> 00:59:38,079
and and this is what we're gonna do uh

1408
00:59:44,069 --> 00:59:41,040
this spring i've got two teams of people

1409
00:59:45,430 --> 00:59:44,079
gonna stay on uh one side and then on

1410
00:59:47,190 --> 00:59:45,440
the missouri side we're going to have

1411
00:59:48,069 --> 00:59:47,200
another team and we're going to try to

1412
00:59:50,390 --> 00:59:48,079
get

1413
00:59:52,549 --> 00:59:50,400
video of this object between us but i

1414
00:59:53,829 --> 00:59:52,559
will say i know some teams who have gone

1415
00:59:56,390 --> 00:59:53,839
out before

1416
00:59:58,630 --> 00:59:56,400
and here is this ball of light they can

1417
01:00:00,309 --> 00:59:58,640
both see it but then one team moves

1418
01:00:02,470 --> 01:00:00,319
close to it and they get to a certain

1419
01:00:04,390 --> 01:00:02,480
point they can't see it anymore but the

1420
01:00:06,549 --> 01:00:04,400
other people do

1421
01:00:07,829 --> 01:00:06,559
so you back up then and then you can see

1422
01:00:09,910 --> 01:00:07,839
it again

1423
01:00:10,950 --> 01:00:09,920
how how you can explain that i don't

1424
01:00:13,589 --> 01:00:10,960
know

1425
01:00:16,710 --> 01:00:13,599
that's just bizarre yeah i have no idea

1426
01:00:19,750 --> 01:00:16,720
um your cell phone is is causing

1427
01:00:20,710 --> 01:00:19,760
interference if you could just move it

1428
01:00:21,990 --> 01:00:20,720
um

1429
01:00:23,910 --> 01:00:22,000
it's uh

1430
01:00:27,190 --> 01:00:23,920
you're busy you have somebody texting

1431
01:00:30,549 --> 01:00:27,200
you or or something okay all right and

1432
01:00:31,430 --> 01:00:30,559
uh and what about

1433
01:00:37,349 --> 01:00:31,440
uh

1434
01:00:41,109 --> 01:00:37,359
too as well that is is something

1435
01:00:43,270 --> 01:00:41,119
that is is entering and leaving our time

1436
01:00:44,470 --> 01:00:43,280
in space

1437
01:00:46,549 --> 01:00:44,480
boy i'll tell you what i could talk

1438
01:00:48,630 --> 01:00:46,559
about that for about two hours

1439
01:00:49,589 --> 01:00:48,640
i've had experiences with it myself

1440
01:00:51,430 --> 01:00:49,599
right

1441
01:00:54,069 --> 01:00:51,440
and i think

1442
01:00:55,030 --> 01:00:54,079
i think the best way i can describe it

1443
01:00:57,270 --> 01:00:55,040
is

1444
01:01:02,309 --> 01:00:57,280
the fast movers

1445
01:01:04,230 --> 01:01:02,319
ufos right

1446
01:01:05,829 --> 01:01:04,240
uaps

1447
01:01:08,390 --> 01:01:05,839
now

1448
01:01:10,950 --> 01:01:08,400
the military has come out

1449
01:01:13,030 --> 01:01:10,960
obviously since 2017

1450
01:01:14,390 --> 01:01:13,040
and they have picture and they let

1451
01:01:16,630 --> 01:01:14,400
everybody see that and they said yeah we

1452
01:01:18,069 --> 01:01:16,640
don't know what these things are okay

1453
01:01:19,430 --> 01:01:18,079
but

1454
01:01:21,589 --> 01:01:19,440
wayne lawrence

1455
01:01:24,309 --> 01:01:21,599
and bill spicer and i got together

1456
01:01:26,549 --> 01:01:24,319
because we were talking about these

1457
01:01:29,109 --> 01:01:26,559
things for several years and we finally

1458
01:01:31,589 --> 01:01:29,119
figured out that the three of us had

1459
01:01:33,990 --> 01:01:31,599
figured out ways of seeing them or

1460
01:01:36,150 --> 01:01:34,000
capturing them on video

1461
01:01:37,750 --> 01:01:36,160
and then and what they were they're

1462
01:01:39,430 --> 01:01:37,760
fast-moving

1463
01:01:41,510 --> 01:01:39,440
alien craft

1464
01:01:43,589 --> 01:01:41,520
or craft that are interdimensional they

1465
01:01:45,270 --> 01:01:43,599
might not be from off-world they could

1466
01:01:46,789 --> 01:01:45,280
be from right here but just

1467
01:01:48,390 --> 01:01:46,799
interdimensional and just by their

1468
01:01:50,390 --> 01:01:48,400
behavior

1469
01:01:53,270 --> 01:01:50,400
the way they act

1470
01:01:56,150 --> 01:01:53,280
they pop in they pop out

1471
01:01:58,630 --> 01:01:56,160
okay they just appear and then disappear

1472
01:02:00,950 --> 01:01:58,640
but the interesting thing

1473
01:02:03,349 --> 01:02:00,960
i mean i first noticed it myself a

1474
01:02:05,750 --> 01:02:03,359
number of years ago where i was seeing

1475
01:02:07,829 --> 01:02:05,760
these little fleeting

1476
01:02:09,510 --> 01:02:07,839
objects in the sky

1477
01:02:12,150 --> 01:02:09,520
when i was outside

1478
01:02:16,230 --> 01:02:12,160
looking up so i would see dark objects

1479
01:02:18,230 --> 01:02:16,240
and white objects and lines and i i was

1480
01:02:20,470 --> 01:02:18,240
thinking well maybe i have something

1481
01:02:22,150 --> 01:02:20,480
wrong with my eyes or something

1482
01:02:24,069 --> 01:02:22,160
but after a while

1483
01:02:26,230 --> 01:02:24,079
doing with my remote viewing practice

1484
01:02:27,190 --> 01:02:26,240
and meditation practice

1485
01:02:33,589 --> 01:02:27,200
i

1486
01:02:35,510 --> 01:02:33,599
better

1487
01:02:38,549 --> 01:02:35,520
and oh my gosh there

1488
01:02:40,549 --> 01:02:38,559
it happened now whether i think really

1489
01:02:43,270 --> 01:02:40,559
in analyzing this what i did was i

1490
01:02:45,670 --> 01:02:43,280
slowed time down for myself

1491
01:02:48,390 --> 01:02:45,680
so that it was my experience to have

1492
01:02:51,029 --> 01:02:48,400
time slow down so i could see them

1493
01:02:54,470 --> 01:02:51,039
and i realized i was looking at real

1494
01:02:56,150 --> 01:02:54,480
craft and then i realized after i'd been

1495
01:02:58,230 --> 01:02:56,160
talking to bill spicer for a number of

1496
01:03:01,589 --> 01:02:58,240
time that he had been

1497
01:03:03,589 --> 01:03:01,599
actually videotaping the same things

1498
01:03:06,230 --> 01:03:03,599
now he developed he discovered a

1499
01:03:08,630 --> 01:03:06,240
technique where he

1500
01:03:10,470 --> 01:03:08,640
had a visitation by a and an

1501
01:03:12,230 --> 01:03:10,480
interdimensional being who told him how

1502
01:03:13,990 --> 01:03:12,240
to do this

1503
01:03:15,670 --> 01:03:14,000
and he

1504
01:03:17,430 --> 01:03:15,680
basically meditates and sends the

1505
01:03:20,069 --> 01:03:17,440
message out

1506
01:03:22,630 --> 01:03:20,079
and they come in they come in closer and

1507
01:03:24,870 --> 01:03:22,640
now they come right over his house

1508
01:03:27,029 --> 01:03:24,880
and are very large objects but they're

1509
01:03:28,309 --> 01:03:27,039
phasing in and out and you can tell in

1510
01:03:30,390 --> 01:03:28,319
the video

1511
01:03:32,549 --> 01:03:30,400
that that's what's happening right that

1512
01:03:34,069 --> 01:03:32,559
it's interdimensional it's higher

1513
01:03:36,549 --> 01:03:34,079
dimensions

1514
01:03:38,710 --> 01:03:36,559
lowering their frequency so that we can

1515
01:03:41,430 --> 01:03:38,720
see them or that you know that somebody

1516
01:03:43,430 --> 01:03:41,440
can see them whoever is doing that and

1517
01:03:45,190 --> 01:03:43,440
so i can do it

1518
01:03:47,829 --> 01:03:45,200
i had figured that out on my own he

1519
01:03:50,870 --> 01:03:47,839
figured it out on his own

1520
01:03:55,029 --> 01:03:50,880
and we decided to call this

1521
01:03:57,510 --> 01:03:55,039
the quantum ufo observation technique

1522
01:03:58,470 --> 01:03:57,520
it's using telepathy

1523
01:04:01,430 --> 01:03:58,480
these

1524
01:04:03,910 --> 01:04:01,440
craft this is a higher intelligence

1525
01:04:05,829 --> 01:04:03,920
who uses telepathy and when you send a

1526
01:04:08,150 --> 01:04:05,839
message out

1527
01:04:09,670 --> 01:04:08,160
they will get it and if

1528
01:04:12,789 --> 01:04:09,680
they're in the neighborhood and can do

1529
01:04:14,309 --> 01:04:12,799
so they will they will come in now wayne

1530
01:04:17,910 --> 01:04:14,319
lawrence

1531
01:04:19,109 --> 01:04:17,920
discovered in reviewing video

1532
01:04:21,670 --> 01:04:19,119
and in fact

1533
01:04:24,150 --> 01:04:21,680
reviewing some of his own video he was

1534
01:04:26,470 --> 01:04:24,160
capturing objects flying in and out of

1535
01:04:28,549 --> 01:04:26,480
blue springs lake

1536
01:04:30,150 --> 01:04:28,559
and he got that on video and he realized

1537
01:04:31,910 --> 01:04:30,160
they're very fast moving and you have to

1538
01:04:35,190 --> 01:04:31,920
slow the video down

1539
01:04:38,390 --> 01:04:35,200
so we started a facebook group

1540
01:04:40,390 --> 01:04:38,400
called the fast movers and and now we've

1541
01:04:42,789 --> 01:04:40,400
got multiple people

1542
01:04:45,349 --> 01:04:42,799
around the world that are capturing

1543
01:04:47,589 --> 01:04:45,359
video of fast movers and some of it is

1544
01:04:48,630 --> 01:04:47,599
just amazing and they get better and

1545
01:04:50,230 --> 01:04:48,640
better

1546
01:04:51,910 --> 01:04:50,240
as they go along because they realize

1547
01:04:52,789 --> 01:04:51,920
that this is more of a consciousness

1548
01:04:54,630 --> 01:04:52,799
thing

1549
01:04:56,710 --> 01:04:54,640
when you have this interaction

1550
01:04:59,109 --> 01:04:56,720
that's how you're going to see them if

1551
01:05:00,470 --> 01:04:59,119
if the person is extremely

1552
01:05:02,069 --> 01:05:00,480
left-brained

1553
01:05:03,990 --> 01:05:02,079
and they're just not going to open up to

1554
01:05:05,510 --> 01:05:04,000
this idea at all they're never going to

1555
01:05:06,710 --> 01:05:05,520
see them

1556
01:05:11,910 --> 01:05:06,720
you know what's

1557
01:05:12,789 --> 01:05:11,920
great for me you are so serious

1558
01:05:13,670 --> 01:05:12,799
you're

1559
01:05:18,549 --> 01:05:13,680
you

1560
01:05:21,270 --> 01:05:18,559
serious about this um so we're going to

1561
01:05:22,710 --> 01:05:21,280
continue this last night

1562
01:05:26,069 --> 01:05:22,720
after the show

1563
01:05:27,270 --> 01:05:26,079
uh i was out uh i have a balcony on the

1564
01:05:29,109 --> 01:05:27,280
second floor

1565
01:05:31,430 --> 01:05:29,119
off of the bedroom

1566
01:05:33,109 --> 01:05:31,440
so i walk out there and

1567
01:05:34,829 --> 01:05:33,119
uh

1568
01:05:37,910 --> 01:05:34,839
and i was facing

1569
01:05:39,829 --> 01:05:37,920
south i'm leaning up against the rail

1570
01:05:42,789 --> 01:05:39,839
and this is what happens

1571
01:05:45,029 --> 01:05:42,799
there was a flash of light

1572
01:05:46,549 --> 01:05:45,039
like in my i i was looking straight

1573
01:05:48,390 --> 01:05:46,559
ahead but i could see it right it was

1574
01:05:53,349 --> 01:05:48,400
just a like a

1575
01:05:54,710 --> 01:05:53,359
a flash and i look up and the i saw it

1576
01:05:57,829 --> 01:05:54,720
go dim

1577
01:06:00,230 --> 01:05:57,839
and it moved over maybe about

1578
01:06:03,349 --> 01:06:00,240
you know that far at arm's length you

1579
01:06:06,630 --> 01:06:03,359
know whatever that and it flashed again

1580
01:06:09,109 --> 01:06:06,640
at when it stopped and i went oh

1581
01:06:11,829 --> 01:06:09,119
man so i i run in the house i go

1582
01:06:13,990 --> 01:06:11,839
downstairs i grab my night vision i know

1583
01:06:16,470 --> 01:06:14,000
exactly where it is i come back up i'm

1584
01:06:19,910 --> 01:06:16,480
out on the balcony and i throw the night

1585
01:06:20,789 --> 01:06:19,920
there's nothing there there was nothing

1586
01:06:22,870 --> 01:06:20,799
there

1587
01:06:25,510 --> 01:06:22,880
yeah and now uh

1588
01:06:27,670 --> 01:06:25,520
the second flash it was still a pin

1589
01:06:29,190 --> 01:06:27,680
prick of a star

1590
01:06:31,270 --> 01:06:29,200
and i could see it

1591
01:06:33,510 --> 01:06:31,280
and uh it came back out i wanted to see

1592
01:06:36,150 --> 01:06:33,520
what was it was gone

1593
01:06:37,670 --> 01:06:36,160
that flash you saw i talked to his

1594
01:06:39,910 --> 01:06:37,680
physicist about this

1595
01:06:42,630 --> 01:06:39,920
and i because i suspected it's the

1596
01:06:43,710 --> 01:06:42,640
portal opening and the portal closing it

1597
01:06:47,829 --> 01:06:43,720
was

1598
01:06:49,990 --> 01:06:47,839
part of me

1599
01:06:51,589 --> 01:06:50,000
that said okay i need to tweet this out

1600
01:06:53,510 --> 01:06:51,599
i need i need to go i need to tell

1601
01:06:54,549 --> 01:06:53,520
everyone i thought you know what i i got

1602
01:06:58,870 --> 01:06:54,559
nothing

1603
01:07:00,870 --> 01:06:58,880
i don't have any pictures

1604
01:07:01,990 --> 01:07:00,880
i couldn't see it i don't have the night

1605
01:07:04,710 --> 01:07:02,000
vision

1606
01:07:06,470 --> 01:07:04,720
um but i know exactly and i stood there

1607
01:07:08,309 --> 01:07:06,480
with the night vision margie for about

1608
01:07:10,549 --> 01:07:08,319
10 minutes

1609
01:07:12,309 --> 01:07:10,559
nothing reappeared nothing nothing

1610
01:07:15,589 --> 01:07:12,319
happened but it was just totally

1611
01:07:17,910 --> 01:07:15,599
interesting and and i kind of the reason

1612
01:07:20,150 --> 01:07:17,920
why i'm even mentioning this

1613
01:07:21,670 --> 01:07:20,160
is when i stepped out on the patio

1614
01:07:23,589 --> 01:07:21,680
well yeah i wonder if i'm going to see

1615
01:07:25,190 --> 01:07:23,599
something it just pop that thought

1616
01:07:26,230 --> 01:07:25,200
popped in my head and then the flash

1617
01:07:28,230 --> 01:07:26,240
happened

1618
01:07:31,029 --> 01:07:28,240
and i looked up and it just scooted

1619
01:07:32,710 --> 01:07:31,039
across flashed again and there it is

1620
01:07:34,630 --> 01:07:32,720
it's a little pin prick

1621
01:07:38,069 --> 01:07:34,640
and i was like okay noted i'm getting

1622
01:07:43,349 --> 01:07:41,190
nothing nothing i really wanted to see

1623
01:07:45,349 --> 01:07:43,359
what was going on and i thought

1624
01:07:46,950 --> 01:07:45,359
that it was going to continue well that

1625
01:07:49,190 --> 01:07:46,960
says to me

1626
01:07:50,630 --> 01:07:49,200
that kind of appearance and

1627
01:07:53,029 --> 01:07:50,640
disappearance

1628
01:07:55,430 --> 01:07:53,039
it's got to be interdimensional it came

1629
01:07:59,349 --> 01:07:55,440
from somewhere and then went somewhere

1630
01:08:02,150 --> 01:07:59,359
else but it was not in the sky anymore

1631
01:08:03,829 --> 01:08:02,160
yeah the the flash is is an indication

1632
01:08:08,710 --> 01:08:03,839
and i'll i'll tell you ever a quick

1633
01:08:11,430 --> 01:08:08,720
story i was pondering this in january

1634
01:08:13,430 --> 01:08:11,440
and i and about the interdimensional

1635
01:08:15,589 --> 01:08:13,440
aspect of it how are they getting in and

1636
01:08:18,070 --> 01:08:15,599
appearing and disappearing

1637
01:08:21,749 --> 01:08:18,080
when a very very strange thing happened

1638
01:08:25,749 --> 01:08:21,759
i was sitting in my hot tub at midnight

1639
01:08:27,990 --> 01:08:25,759
looking up at the moon when i saw this

1640
01:08:31,030 --> 01:08:28,000
oh probably about

1641
01:08:33,510 --> 01:08:31,040
a basketball size or a little smaller

1642
01:08:35,349 --> 01:08:33,520
opening flash

1643
01:08:36,630 --> 01:08:35,359
and this you're not going to believe

1644
01:08:40,149 --> 01:08:36,640
this

1645
01:08:42,470 --> 01:08:40,159
a fairy came out of it

1646
01:08:45,590 --> 01:08:42,480
that was about six inches tall

1647
01:08:47,110 --> 01:08:45,600
all gold and glowing

1648
01:08:49,430 --> 01:08:47,120
light

1649
01:08:51,030 --> 01:08:49,440
she flew across just kept go looking

1650
01:08:52,630 --> 01:08:51,040
straight did not look at me just flew

1651
01:08:55,189 --> 01:08:52,640
across the front of me about 10 feet

1652
01:08:58,229 --> 01:08:55,199
there's another flash and a hole that

1653
01:09:01,269 --> 01:08:58,239
she goes into and is gone

1654
01:09:03,590 --> 01:09:01,279
and there was the answer to my question

1655
01:09:06,070 --> 01:09:03,600
not to mention the fact that i was

1656
01:09:07,990 --> 01:09:06,080
finishing up my book winged aliens and

1657
01:09:10,149 --> 01:09:08,000
it had fairies in it

1658
01:09:13,510 --> 01:09:10,159
but i sure neck was not expecting to see

1659
01:09:15,430 --> 01:09:13,520
that i love fairy stories i love fairy

1660
01:09:18,149 --> 01:09:15,440
stories i've got some for you they'll

1661
01:09:21,030 --> 01:09:18,159
blow you away i i love fairy stories and

1662
01:09:22,149 --> 01:09:21,040
uh when uh i

1663
01:09:24,789 --> 01:09:22,159
first

1664
01:09:27,349 --> 01:09:24,799
had my little taste of fairy land look

1665
01:09:29,349 --> 01:09:27,359
at and i was and i'm thinking to myself

1666
01:09:31,669 --> 01:09:29,359
what do i do with this

1667
01:09:34,630 --> 01:09:31,679
and you know here i am this big rough

1668
01:09:36,630 --> 01:09:34,640
and tumble you know radio host with the

1669
01:09:39,829 --> 01:09:36,640
with the with the pipes and

1670
01:09:43,269 --> 01:09:39,839
and guitars and i drive a jeep

1671
01:09:45,030 --> 01:09:43,279
and i'm about to talk about fairies

1672
01:09:48,309 --> 01:09:45,040
this is gonna be good

1673
01:09:49,349 --> 01:09:48,319
well and and i i just don't give a crap

1674
01:09:51,910 --> 01:09:49,359
anymore

1675
01:09:55,270 --> 01:09:51,920
i i i don't

1676
01:09:57,430 --> 01:09:55,280
um somebody showed me this was uh a few

1677
01:09:58,229 --> 01:09:57,440
years ago margie then we'll get to a

1678
01:09:59,350 --> 01:09:58,239
break

1679
01:10:01,350 --> 01:09:59,360
um

1680
01:10:03,030 --> 01:10:01,360
somebody comes up to me i can't think i

1681
01:10:04,550 --> 01:10:03,040
can't remember her name at this point i

1682
01:10:07,510 --> 01:10:04,560
apologize for that

1683
01:10:09,830 --> 01:10:07,520
but um uh she goes

1684
01:10:14,070 --> 01:10:09,840
you you want to see my picture of of my

1685
01:10:21,270 --> 01:10:19,510
yeah i do and i s on all that i love now

1686
01:10:23,830 --> 01:10:21,280
so the picture

1687
01:10:26,630 --> 01:10:23,840
is of the tree that i can see

1688
01:10:28,950 --> 01:10:26,640
and uh right

1689
01:10:30,709 --> 01:10:28,960
it's like 10 feet away

1690
01:10:32,950 --> 01:10:30,719
it's a blue

1691
01:10:34,550 --> 01:10:32,960
orb

1692
01:10:36,950 --> 01:10:34,560
it's right there it's right next to the

1693
01:10:38,790 --> 01:10:36,960
tree and in the middle of this orb is a

1694
01:10:41,510 --> 01:10:38,800
fairy like this

1695
01:10:42,870 --> 01:10:41,520
with her arms out wings

1696
01:10:45,590 --> 01:10:42,880
tinkerbell

1697
01:10:48,390 --> 01:10:45,600
inside this i'm looking and there

1698
01:10:50,070 --> 01:10:48,400
there's no question

1699
01:10:52,149 --> 01:10:50,080
what you are looking at

1700
01:10:54,149 --> 01:10:52,159
and i walked out i had her phone and i

1701
01:10:55,830 --> 01:10:54,159
walked out to the tree

1702
01:10:57,910 --> 01:10:55,840
and and i stood there and i'm holding

1703
01:10:59,189 --> 01:10:57,920
the phone up right wait and i'm like oh

1704
01:11:01,189 --> 01:10:59,199
my goodness

1705
01:11:04,470 --> 01:11:01,199
so for three days

1706
01:11:06,630 --> 01:11:04,480
i was out there by that tree

1707
01:11:09,990 --> 01:11:06,640
come on fairies come on up

1708
01:11:12,390 --> 01:11:10,000
a grown man a grown man uh and i didn't

1709
01:11:15,669 --> 01:11:12,400
get the ferry visit by the way but it

1710
01:11:17,350 --> 01:11:15,679
was an incredible photograph and it was

1711
01:11:18,630 --> 01:11:17,360
exactly as i'm describing it was

1712
01:11:21,910 --> 01:11:18,640
tinkerbell

1713
01:11:24,830 --> 01:11:21,920
uh a white tinker bell with her arms out

1714
01:11:27,350 --> 01:11:24,840
with like four wings like

1715
01:11:29,030 --> 01:11:27,360
dragonflies inside this blue orb right

1716
01:11:30,870 --> 01:11:29,040
next to this tree

1717
01:11:32,149 --> 01:11:30,880
yeah yeah

1718
01:11:34,550 --> 01:11:32,159
yeah they're real

1719
01:11:35,350 --> 01:11:34,560
they are oh man

1720
01:11:36,709 --> 01:11:35,360
uh

1721
01:11:39,189 --> 01:11:36,719
we'll come back

1722
01:11:40,790 --> 01:11:39,199
when we come back uh what's up next uh

1723
01:11:46,470 --> 01:11:40,800
oklahoma

1724
01:11:48,070 --> 01:11:46,480
ferries everywhere fairies are real see

1725
01:11:50,390 --> 01:11:48,080
this is the thing

1726
01:11:52,110 --> 01:11:50,400
um

1727
01:11:54,470 --> 01:11:52,120
we're talking about it in

1728
01:11:57,110 --> 01:11:54,480
2021 but they've been talking about

1729
01:11:59,590 --> 01:11:57,120
fairies for thousands of years

1730
01:12:03,030 --> 01:11:59,600
every culture has got

1731
01:12:04,310 --> 01:12:03,040
uh some mythology some folklore tied

1732
01:12:07,350 --> 01:12:04,320
back to this

1733
01:12:10,149 --> 01:12:07,360
and i know now it's not imagination

1734
01:12:12,470 --> 01:12:10,159
it's just simply not uh it's something

1735
01:12:15,030 --> 01:12:12,480
interdimensional that exists here and

1736
01:12:16,550 --> 01:12:15,040
that goes along with uh all of the other

1737
01:12:18,390 --> 01:12:16,560
uh mythology

1738
01:12:20,070 --> 01:12:18,400
uh not only in this country but think

1739
01:12:23,510 --> 01:12:20,080
about europe and

1740
01:12:26,070 --> 01:12:23,520
finland and iceland and elves and and

1741
01:12:27,110 --> 01:12:26,080
and you know throughout russia china

1742
01:12:29,830 --> 01:12:27,120
japan

1743
01:12:31,350 --> 01:12:29,840
it's it's it's all over the place and i

1744
01:12:33,750 --> 01:12:31,360
it's because

1745
01:12:35,590 --> 01:12:33,760
they are describing something that is

1746
01:12:37,590 --> 01:12:35,600
real there's no other way to look at it

1747
01:12:41,189 --> 01:12:37,600
this is fade to black i'm your host

1748
01:12:43,590 --> 01:12:41,199
jimmy church our guest tonight margie k

1749
01:12:45,270 --> 01:12:43,600
we will continue our conversation when

1750
01:12:47,110 --> 01:12:45,280
we come back somebody just posted lisa

1751
01:12:49,030 --> 01:12:47,120
said i love fairies

1752
01:12:50,390 --> 01:12:49,040
i see it right there on twitter this is

1753
01:12:51,830 --> 01:12:50,400
fade to black

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01:12:54,520 --> 01:12:51,840
we'll be right back after this short

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01:13:02,070 --> 01:12:54,530
break stay with us

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01:13:05,750 --> 01:13:04,229
you're listening to jimmy church and

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fade to black

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way out here we listen to jimmy church

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1807
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headed do you wonder about the food

1808
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supply i do disruptions in the food

1809
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supply chain could be disastrous and

1810
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they usually occur with little warning

1811
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that's why the smartest thing you can do

1812
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recommend my patriot supply they're the

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01:17:20,310 --> 01:17:18,560
oh

1845
01:17:23,270 --> 01:17:20,320
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1846
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1847
01:17:29,350 --> 01:17:26,080
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[Music]

1850
01:18:18,310 --> 01:18:15,030
welcome back fade to black i am your

1851
01:18:20,229 --> 01:18:18,320
host jimmy church thanksgiving week here

1852
01:18:22,630 --> 01:18:20,239
that's right tonight margie k tomorrow

1853
01:18:24,830 --> 01:18:22,640
night dave schrader joins us darkness

1854
01:18:28,149 --> 01:18:24,840
dave for schrader

1855
01:18:30,149 --> 01:18:28,159
night thursday's thanksgiving i want to

1856
01:18:32,470 --> 01:18:30,159
remind everybody of a couple of things

1857
01:18:34,470 --> 01:18:32,480
yes we are going to do a thanksgiving

1858
01:18:37,030 --> 01:18:34,480
open line tonight with all of you after

1859
01:18:39,990 --> 01:18:37,040
dinner i will be here in the bunker

1860
01:18:42,310 --> 01:18:40,000
so yes come and hang out with uh with me

1861
01:18:44,550 --> 01:18:42,320
and and tell me what you're thankful for

1862
01:18:47,510 --> 01:18:44,560
and uh and i had one other thing i

1863
01:18:50,310 --> 01:18:47,520
wanted to drop oh yeah the observers is

1864
01:18:52,390 --> 01:18:50,320
now available for rent on all streaming

1865
01:18:55,030 --> 01:18:52,400
services that was a big announcement it

1866
01:18:57,590 --> 01:18:55,040
uh phased in last night but it is now

1867
01:18:59,590 --> 01:18:57,600
across all platforms today so

1868
01:19:01,830 --> 01:18:59,600
uh go and watch the observers tonight

1869
01:19:03,669 --> 01:19:01,840
after the show the link is is right here

1870
01:19:06,229 --> 01:19:03,679
and also throughout social media now

1871
01:19:09,270 --> 01:19:06,239
margie check this out i just got this uh

1872
01:19:11,510 --> 01:19:09,280
a tweet that just came in uh from jt

1873
01:19:14,470 --> 01:19:11,520
he's a trucker in indy

1874
01:19:16,550 --> 01:19:14,480
and he said i thought i'd just document

1875
01:19:17,910 --> 01:19:16,560
by posting as my five-year-old

1876
01:19:20,310 --> 01:19:17,920
granddaughter

1877
01:19:22,950 --> 01:19:20,320
just laid down next to her grandma for

1878
01:19:25,030 --> 01:19:22,960
the night and out of the blue she tells

1879
01:19:29,830 --> 01:19:25,040
her her grandmother

1880
01:19:32,149 --> 01:19:29,840
that she saw the alien in the spaceship

1881
01:19:34,070 --> 01:19:32,159
and i asked her what it looked like now

1882
01:19:36,229 --> 01:19:34,080
that's all i've got uh jt i need the

1883
01:19:39,430 --> 01:19:36,239
rest of the story i need i need to know

1884
01:19:41,350 --> 01:19:39,440
what happens next i like what what is it

1885
01:19:42,870 --> 01:19:41,360
uh we're going to move on to oklahoma

1886
01:19:46,070 --> 01:19:42,880
but when

1887
01:19:49,189 --> 01:19:46,080
when a a a child

1888
01:19:51,350 --> 01:19:49,199
sees something and they blurt it out

1889
01:19:53,110 --> 01:19:51,360
they're they're usually saying what they

1890
01:19:55,830 --> 01:19:53,120
saw right

1891
01:19:57,830 --> 01:19:55,840
yeah they're especially that young

1892
01:19:59,669 --> 01:19:57,840
they they really don't have

1893
01:20:01,350 --> 01:19:59,679
the concept of lying and making

1894
01:20:03,669 --> 01:20:01,360
something up like that

1895
01:20:05,669 --> 01:20:03,679
and i've also found that

1896
01:20:08,070 --> 01:20:05,679
when they say something right before

1897
01:20:10,470 --> 01:20:08,080
they go to bed at night

1898
01:20:12,550 --> 01:20:10,480
it's probably true and and they will say

1899
01:20:15,030 --> 01:20:12,560
the strangest things they'll talk about

1900
01:20:16,229 --> 01:20:15,040
past lives they'll talk about et's

1901
01:20:17,910 --> 01:20:16,239
they've seen

1902
01:20:19,110 --> 01:20:17,920
uh it's odd and a lot of times they

1903
01:20:22,390 --> 01:20:19,120
won't remember they said it in the

1904
01:20:25,590 --> 01:20:22,400
morning now um i didn't uh when i was

1905
01:20:28,390 --> 01:20:25,600
growing up uh i was watching a

1906
01:20:29,750 --> 01:20:28,400
documentary earlier today on this and i

1907
01:20:30,950 --> 01:20:29,760
didn't think i'd talk about it on the

1908
01:20:32,470 --> 01:20:30,960
show but

1909
01:20:35,510 --> 01:20:32,480
um about

1910
01:20:36,790 --> 01:20:35,520
kids having their you know their secret

1911
01:20:37,910 --> 01:20:36,800
friends

1912
01:20:39,910 --> 01:20:37,920
and

1913
01:20:42,550 --> 01:20:39,920
i never had that

1914
01:20:44,709 --> 01:20:42,560
i i and and i think i even heard about

1915
01:20:45,669 --> 01:20:44,719
it when i was a kid i never had the

1916
01:20:47,910 --> 01:20:45,679
secret

1917
01:20:50,070 --> 01:20:47,920
ghost friend or somebody that i was

1918
01:20:52,229 --> 01:20:50,080
hanging out with i i don't have that

1919
01:20:54,709 --> 01:20:52,239
memory did you

1920
01:20:55,830 --> 01:20:54,719
i didn't have a secret friend my sister

1921
01:21:01,590 --> 01:20:55,840
did

1922
01:21:04,870 --> 01:21:01,600
have a voice that would say something to

1923
01:21:06,790 --> 01:21:04,880
me periodically not all the time just if

1924
01:21:09,590 --> 01:21:06,800
there was something important and it

1925
01:21:12,629 --> 01:21:09,600
would say pay attention to that

1926
01:21:15,189 --> 01:21:12,639
or go over here or look up or something

1927
01:21:16,950 --> 01:21:15,199
like that and i didn't realize until

1928
01:21:20,470 --> 01:21:16,960
much much later

1929
01:21:22,870 --> 01:21:20,480
that it was that same voice of a man who

1930
01:21:24,550 --> 01:21:22,880
actually turned out to be valiant thor

1931
01:21:33,350 --> 01:21:24,560
what

1932
01:21:36,310 --> 01:21:33,360
entire life he did he he made himself

1933
01:21:38,470 --> 01:21:36,320
appear to me in 1985

1934
01:21:40,390 --> 01:21:38,480
actually physically appeared and spoke

1935
01:21:43,350 --> 01:21:40,400
to me for the first time

1936
01:21:46,149 --> 01:21:43,360
in that manner and out loud

1937
01:21:48,709 --> 01:21:46,159
and and and i i was just blown away yeah

1938
01:21:50,550 --> 01:21:48,719
he he's been in my life and he is now it

1939
01:21:53,030 --> 01:21:50,560
was he the young

1940
01:21:55,510 --> 01:21:53,040
good-looking valiant thor or did he age

1941
01:21:57,110 --> 01:21:55,520
yeah no he hasn't aged

1942
01:21:58,070 --> 01:21:57,120
that's what i've heard yeah that's what

1943
01:22:00,790 --> 01:21:58,080
i've heard

1944
01:22:03,110 --> 01:22:00,800
so you got the young dashing

1945
01:22:05,590 --> 01:22:03,120
vibrant valiant but of course i didn't

1946
01:22:08,390 --> 01:22:05,600
know who he was in 1985 he just appeared

1947
01:22:09,189 --> 01:22:08,400
on a wall and started talking to me

1948
01:22:13,189 --> 01:22:09,199
and

1949
01:22:15,510 --> 01:22:13,199
happened where i i was with my massage

1950
01:22:16,709 --> 01:22:15,520
therapist at the time and his voice

1951
01:22:21,030 --> 01:22:16,719
changed

1952
01:22:22,629 --> 01:22:21,040
would you like to try a light experiment

1953
01:22:24,790 --> 01:22:22,639
and i said okay because i knew

1954
01:22:27,110 --> 01:22:24,800
immediately something was up

1955
01:22:29,189 --> 01:22:27,120
and so he had me look at a green light

1956
01:22:30,790 --> 01:22:29,199
and then a red light and back and forth

1957
01:22:32,390 --> 01:22:30,800
and he said now what do you see i looked

1958
01:22:34,629 --> 01:22:32,400
up at him and i just saw a skeleton

1959
01:22:36,070 --> 01:22:34,639
standing there just the skeleton of him

1960
01:22:37,750 --> 01:22:36,080
nothing else

1961
01:22:39,830 --> 01:22:37,760
and then thor's head appeared on the

1962
01:22:41,990 --> 01:22:39,840
wall of course i didn't know who he was

1963
01:22:43,590 --> 01:22:42,000
and he he said i am thor and now you

1964
01:22:45,110 --> 01:22:43,600
have x-ray vision

1965
01:22:46,629 --> 01:22:45,120
and we'll be in touch in the future

1966
01:22:48,550 --> 01:22:46,639
we're going to be working together and

1967
01:22:50,629 --> 01:22:48,560
he disappeared and i'm like what the

1968
01:22:52,550 --> 01:22:50,639
heck just happened

1969
01:22:54,629 --> 01:22:52,560
and then the therapist was back to

1970
01:22:55,669 --> 01:22:54,639
normal well i didn't realize it at the

1971
01:22:56,470 --> 01:22:55,679
time

1972
01:22:59,430 --> 01:22:56,480
but

1973
01:23:01,990 --> 01:22:59,440
he actually increased my remote viewing

1974
01:23:04,310 --> 01:23:02,000
abilities and gave me the ability to

1975
01:23:06,629 --> 01:23:04,320
look through and inside people

1976
01:23:07,990 --> 01:23:06,639
to see to see everything i see the

1977
01:23:11,350 --> 01:23:08,000
organs i see

1978
01:23:13,430 --> 01:23:11,360
the skeleton and i can diagnose

1979
01:23:15,189 --> 01:23:13,440
problem areas for people to to pay

1980
01:23:16,550 --> 01:23:15,199
attention to i know exactly what's going

1981
01:23:18,470 --> 01:23:16,560
on in the body

1982
01:23:20,870 --> 01:23:18,480
it's crazy and then that developed on

1983
01:23:23,350 --> 01:23:20,880
into finding missing people and and all

1984
01:23:24,950 --> 01:23:23,360
that so you can see through my clothes

1985
01:23:26,470 --> 01:23:24,960
right now

1986
01:23:28,709 --> 01:23:26,480
i could if i

1987
01:23:31,669 --> 01:23:28,719
were to do so

1988
01:23:33,990 --> 01:23:31,679
man i'm not inclined to do so

1989
01:23:36,229 --> 01:23:34,000
man i'm uncomfortable

1990
01:23:37,910 --> 01:23:36,239
no i can just you know look inside i can

1991
01:23:41,110 --> 01:23:37,920
even look at the blood

1992
01:23:42,310 --> 01:23:41,120
and look at it microscopically as well

1993
01:23:45,350 --> 01:23:42,320
the uh

1994
01:23:46,870 --> 01:23:45,360
the ability to do that you can turn it

1995
01:23:50,629 --> 01:23:46,880
on and turn it off

1996
01:23:52,470 --> 01:23:50,639
yes after so many years doing it yeah

1997
01:23:54,229 --> 01:23:52,480
that's it

1998
01:23:56,070 --> 01:23:54,239
and with his help

1999
01:23:57,830 --> 01:23:56,080
with his help i wanted to talk about

2000
01:24:00,229 --> 01:23:57,840
oklahoma ufos

2001
01:24:04,149 --> 01:24:00,239
okay but no no i want to talk about

2002
01:24:08,070 --> 01:24:05,350
it's not like looking through their

2003
01:24:09,669 --> 01:24:08,080
clothes i look inside the body right at

2004
01:24:11,990 --> 01:24:09,679
the organs and

2005
01:24:15,030 --> 01:24:12,000
you know the blood and things like that

2006
01:24:16,470 --> 01:24:15,040
and when when that happens uh you know

2007
01:24:17,750 --> 01:24:16,480
i'm being facetious about looking

2008
01:24:19,590 --> 01:24:17,760
through the clothes but that's what i

2009
01:24:21,110 --> 01:24:19,600
would do if i had that power of course

2010
01:24:22,390 --> 01:24:21,120
but the

2011
01:24:25,110 --> 01:24:22,400
uh

2012
01:24:27,350 --> 01:24:25,120
if you see do you

2013
01:24:30,470 --> 01:24:27,360
do you tell people if they've got issues

2014
01:24:32,310 --> 01:24:30,480
or do you keep that stuff private no no

2015
01:24:34,149 --> 01:24:32,320
they have they're asking for it they ask

2016
01:24:36,470 --> 01:24:34,159
for a reading they set a reading up with

2017
01:24:37,990 --> 01:24:36,480
me right and i'd scan them of course

2018
01:24:40,229 --> 01:24:38,000
long distance

2019
01:24:42,870 --> 01:24:40,239
uh you know or i'll do it on zoom but i

2020
01:24:44,550 --> 01:24:42,880
can also do it on the phone right and uh

2021
01:24:46,629 --> 01:24:44,560
then i'll i'll scan them i'll look at

2022
01:24:48,390 --> 01:24:46,639
their energy field and then look in

2023
01:24:49,750 --> 01:24:48,400
their body and if i see something that

2024
01:24:51,990 --> 01:24:49,760
needs attention i'll tell them to go to

2025
01:24:54,390 --> 01:24:52,000
the doctor now what if i don't ask for

2026
01:24:56,790 --> 01:24:54,400
it what if you and i are just at a nice

2027
01:24:59,110 --> 01:24:56,800
restaurant like uh

2028
01:25:01,430 --> 01:24:59,120
uh you know we're at claim jumper you

2029
01:25:02,709 --> 01:25:01,440
know real nice place and we're there

2030
01:25:05,430 --> 01:25:02,719
and and

2031
01:25:07,189 --> 01:25:05,440
and i don't ask for it

2032
01:25:08,629 --> 01:25:07,199
but you see something would you tell me

2033
01:25:10,709 --> 01:25:08,639
jimmy you got to get that mole on your

2034
01:25:12,950 --> 01:25:10,719
back checked

2035
01:25:14,470 --> 01:25:12,960
no i don't see things that way because i

2036
01:25:15,750 --> 01:25:14,480
don't look at people unless they they

2037
01:25:17,350 --> 01:25:15,760
want me to

2038
01:25:19,030 --> 01:25:17,360
so we're just friends and we're sitting

2039
01:25:21,270 --> 01:25:19,040
chatting i'm not going to see anything

2040
01:25:22,870 --> 01:25:21,280
right but if you say hey i think i got

2041
01:25:25,590 --> 01:25:22,880
an issue on my back would you take a

2042
01:25:27,750 --> 01:25:25,600
look yeah i'll do it okay all right

2043
01:25:31,110 --> 01:25:27,760
you wouldn't give me advice like jimmy

2044
01:25:34,149 --> 01:25:31,120
too much gravy at the claim jumper

2045
01:25:36,310 --> 01:25:34,159
yeah you need this comes in you know i

2046
01:25:38,790 --> 01:25:36,320
mean i'm i might even get

2047
01:25:41,750 --> 01:25:38,800
a lot of times i'll get um suggestions

2048
01:25:43,350 --> 01:25:41,760
for people to to address an issue or if

2049
01:25:45,669 --> 01:25:43,360
they're like if they're low on certain

2050
01:25:47,750 --> 01:25:45,679
vitamins they'll know that if they

2051
01:25:49,030 --> 01:25:47,760
uh are not drinking enough water or some

2052
01:25:51,270 --> 01:25:49,040
you know something like that i'll i'll

2053
01:25:53,189 --> 01:25:51,280
pick it up and just relay it

2054
01:25:54,870 --> 01:25:53,199
you and i need to do uh we'll do

2055
01:25:55,750 --> 01:25:54,880
something offline

2056
01:25:57,270 --> 01:25:55,760
i mean

2057
01:26:01,510 --> 01:25:57,280
that would be fun

2058
01:26:03,750 --> 01:26:01,520
i'd really like to do that okay oklahoma

2059
01:26:05,590 --> 01:26:03,760
ufos

2060
01:26:07,669 --> 01:26:05,600
what's going on

2061
01:26:10,550 --> 01:26:07,679
i'll tell you what i've been working on

2062
01:26:12,390 --> 01:26:10,560
a case with the oklahoma state director

2063
01:26:15,669 --> 01:26:12,400
mindy tapfest

2064
01:26:17,270 --> 01:26:15,679
and i happened to be in oklahoma

2065
01:26:19,189 --> 01:26:17,280
earlier in the year

2066
01:26:20,390 --> 01:26:19,199
and i said hey let's

2067
01:26:23,189 --> 01:26:20,400
let's

2068
01:26:25,030 --> 01:26:23,199
meet at that case and and talk about i

2069
01:26:26,390 --> 01:26:25,040
mean this has got everything it's got

2070
01:26:29,830 --> 01:26:26,400
ufos

2071
01:26:31,030 --> 01:26:29,840
it's got abductions it's got fairies

2072
01:26:33,030 --> 01:26:31,040
ghosts

2073
01:26:35,110 --> 01:26:33,040
and even a pterodactyl

2074
01:26:37,430 --> 01:26:35,120
so this is one of those cases

2075
01:26:40,310 --> 01:26:37,440
where you think either these people have

2076
01:26:42,310 --> 01:26:40,320
completely lost their minds right or

2077
01:26:43,590 --> 01:26:42,320
some crazy stuff is really happening

2078
01:26:53,750 --> 01:26:43,600
here

2079
01:26:55,830 --> 01:26:53,760
interviewed this older couple

2080
01:26:58,390 --> 01:26:55,840
who had never

2081
01:27:01,510 --> 01:26:58,400
had not had too many things happen to

2082
01:27:03,590 --> 01:27:01,520
them that were odd in their lives okay

2083
01:27:07,189 --> 01:27:03,600
but when the lady

2084
01:27:08,629 --> 01:27:07,199
had a bad accident a few years ago

2085
01:27:11,030 --> 01:27:08,639
she suddenly

2086
01:27:13,750 --> 01:27:11,040
started seeing things that she wasn't

2087
01:27:16,070 --> 01:27:13,760
before of becoming aware of things

2088
01:27:19,750 --> 01:27:16,080
but that being said

2089
01:27:21,430 --> 01:27:19,760
they live in this suburb of oklahoma

2090
01:27:24,550 --> 01:27:21,440
city

2091
01:27:26,550 --> 01:27:24,560
and right next to a very very large park

2092
01:27:28,229 --> 01:27:26,560
old large park

2093
01:27:30,229 --> 01:27:28,239
backed up to their house so the whole

2094
01:27:32,229 --> 01:27:30,239
backyard is giant park

2095
01:27:34,149 --> 01:27:32,239
and there are houses lined up along so

2096
01:27:36,070 --> 01:27:34,159
there's a lot of them that back up to

2097
01:27:38,790 --> 01:27:36,080
this park and there's a stream there

2098
01:27:40,790 --> 01:27:38,800
there's a bridge and there's a walkway

2099
01:27:43,669 --> 01:27:40,800
the first strange thing that they

2100
01:27:46,070 --> 01:27:43,679
noticed was ufos

2101
01:27:47,590 --> 01:27:46,080
and they would be there every night and

2102
01:27:49,990 --> 01:27:47,600
they would come from the same direction

2103
01:27:50,950 --> 01:27:50,000
every night and they start taking videos

2104
01:27:52,870 --> 01:27:50,960
of them

2105
01:27:56,149 --> 01:27:52,880
and then one evening

2106
01:27:58,870 --> 01:27:56,159
the ufo came right over their house and

2107
01:28:01,669 --> 01:27:58,880
hovering outside next to their vehicle

2108
01:28:05,350 --> 01:28:01,679
and something was ejected out of it

2109
01:28:07,830 --> 01:28:05,360
and fell onto them and their vehicle

2110
01:28:09,830 --> 01:28:07,840
will she develop upper respiratory

2111
01:28:12,470 --> 01:28:09,840
issues and that that incident happened

2112
01:28:14,550 --> 01:28:12,480
about one year ago

2113
01:28:17,350 --> 01:28:14,560
and she still has upper respiratory

2114
01:28:20,149 --> 01:28:17,360
issues because of it what was he ejected

2115
01:28:22,390 --> 01:28:20,159
when he well i'll tell you we found out

2116
01:28:23,590 --> 01:28:22,400
what what it was because i took a sample

2117
01:28:25,750 --> 01:28:23,600
of it

2118
01:28:28,070 --> 01:28:25,760
she they it happened it wasn't from that

2119
01:28:29,990 --> 01:28:28,080
year ago event it was from recently it

2120
01:28:32,070 --> 01:28:30,000
happened to them again

2121
01:28:34,149 --> 01:28:32,080
and she said the ufo comes comes over

2122
01:28:36,950 --> 01:28:34,159
their house every once in a while and

2123
01:28:38,709 --> 01:28:36,960
then ejects this this black substance

2124
01:28:40,709 --> 01:28:38,719
it's very it was very very sticky and it

2125
01:28:42,550 --> 01:28:40,719
didn't want to come off the car either

2126
01:28:46,070 --> 01:28:42,560
so i took a sample i sent it to the

2127
01:28:48,870 --> 01:28:46,080
mufon lab right to lynn mann in st louis

2128
01:28:50,470 --> 01:28:48,880
well farmington

2129
01:28:54,070 --> 01:28:50,480
she came back

2130
01:28:55,270 --> 01:28:54,080
she said this is pond scum

2131
01:28:57,830 --> 01:28:55,280
there were

2132
01:28:58,709 --> 01:28:57,840
dead little tiny creatures in it

2133
01:29:04,790 --> 01:28:58,719
and

2134
01:29:06,149 --> 01:29:04,800
upper respiratory issues because she she

2135
01:29:08,830 --> 01:29:06,159
breathed it in

2136
01:29:11,510 --> 01:29:08,840
and it's known to do that

2137
01:29:13,510 --> 01:29:11,520
so i said what in the world and she goes

2138
01:29:15,590 --> 01:29:13,520
well there's is there a lake nearby yes

2139
01:29:17,350 --> 01:29:15,600
there's kitchen lake right nearby she

2140
01:29:18,950 --> 01:29:17,360
said ufo

2141
01:29:21,350 --> 01:29:18,960
likely scenario

2142
01:29:23,110 --> 01:29:21,360
was in the water came out of the water

2143
01:29:24,870 --> 01:29:23,120
flew over their house and ejected this

2144
01:29:26,470 --> 01:29:24,880
material

2145
01:29:27,430 --> 01:29:26,480
well this has happened to them several

2146
01:29:29,910 --> 01:29:27,440
times

2147
01:29:32,149 --> 01:29:29,920
and also to a couple of their neighbors

2148
01:29:34,470 --> 01:29:32,159
so it's a it's a large ufo that you know

2149
01:29:37,669 --> 01:29:34,480
gets everybody at once so why why it's

2150
01:29:39,110 --> 01:29:37,679
ejecting it right then i don't know

2151
01:29:40,149 --> 01:29:39,120
but that's what first got their

2152
01:29:41,669 --> 01:29:40,159
attention

2153
01:29:43,669 --> 01:29:41,679
and then they so they started watching

2154
01:29:45,350 --> 01:29:43,679
this park because the ufos would always

2155
01:29:47,030 --> 01:29:45,360
come over the park sometimes there'd be

2156
01:29:48,709 --> 01:29:47,040
more than one

2157
01:29:49,990 --> 01:29:48,719
and they started noticing even during

2158
01:29:51,270 --> 01:29:50,000
the day

2159
01:29:55,110 --> 01:29:51,280
this

2160
01:29:58,310 --> 01:29:55,120
outline of figure of an older woman

2161
01:30:00,229 --> 01:29:58,320
always wearing the same clothes walking

2162
01:30:02,629 --> 01:30:00,239
and then she would just simply disappear

2163
01:30:05,030 --> 01:30:02,639
in the same spot she was transparent so

2164
01:30:06,629 --> 01:30:05,040
there's here's this spirit that's that's

2165
01:30:08,550 --> 01:30:06,639
walking up and down and they just

2166
01:30:10,950 --> 01:30:08,560
recently sent me a good picture of her

2167
01:30:12,950 --> 01:30:10,960
too oh my gosh it's a good picture i'm

2168
01:30:13,990 --> 01:30:12,960
gonna have to post it

2169
01:30:16,550 --> 01:30:14,000
but

2170
01:30:19,110 --> 01:30:16,560
the next thing is they started noticing

2171
01:30:21,910 --> 01:30:19,120
these little winged creatures

2172
01:30:23,430 --> 01:30:21,920
in their backyard and the man was he was

2173
01:30:25,270 --> 01:30:23,440
doing some work

2174
01:30:27,189 --> 01:30:25,280
and he suddenly heard this little voice

2175
01:30:29,270 --> 01:30:27,199
say turn around

2176
01:30:30,629 --> 01:30:29,280
so he turns around and there's three

2177
01:30:34,470 --> 01:30:30,639
fairies

2178
01:30:37,110 --> 01:30:34,480
sitting on different leaves on this tree

2179
01:30:39,030 --> 01:30:37,120
and one of them was laid sideways

2180
01:30:41,350 --> 01:30:39,040
and they were laughing and joking they

2181
01:30:42,390 --> 01:30:41,360
just thought it was hilarious that this

2182
01:30:43,669 --> 01:30:42,400
guy

2183
01:30:45,750 --> 01:30:43,679
you know that they were playing a joke

2184
01:30:49,350 --> 01:30:45,760
on this guy he was shocking so he told

2185
01:30:51,510 --> 01:30:49,360
his wife what he saw and so they started

2186
01:30:54,070 --> 01:30:51,520
taking video and just taking their

2187
01:30:56,950 --> 01:30:54,080
cameras out and videotaping around this

2188
01:30:59,669 --> 01:30:56,960
certain tree where these fairies were

2189
01:31:01,750 --> 01:30:59,679
and so they vary in size from very very

2190
01:31:03,189 --> 01:31:01,760
tiny an inch tall

2191
01:31:05,669 --> 01:31:03,199
and this is not the first time i heard

2192
01:31:07,110 --> 01:31:05,679
of fairies being an inch tall by the way

2193
01:31:08,709 --> 01:31:07,120
but an inch

2194
01:31:10,070 --> 01:31:08,719
to six inches

2195
01:31:10,870 --> 01:31:10,080
and then there's some others that they

2196
01:31:11,990 --> 01:31:10,880
call

2197
01:31:14,149 --> 01:31:12,000
mimics

2198
01:31:16,070 --> 01:31:14,159
that are 10 inches tall and they've

2199
01:31:17,430 --> 01:31:16,080
they've drawn some pictures of these

2200
01:31:20,870 --> 01:31:17,440
they look like

2201
01:31:22,950 --> 01:31:20,880
humanoids with a with a human type body

2202
01:31:25,430 --> 01:31:22,960
but with more

2203
01:31:27,510 --> 01:31:25,440
maybe half a human and half insect type

2204
01:31:28,830 --> 01:31:27,520
head

2205
01:31:31,189 --> 01:31:28,840
and they make

2206
01:31:32,709 --> 01:31:31,199
noises and they don't look like anything

2207
01:31:35,270 --> 01:31:32,719
else they've ever seen and they actually

2208
01:31:36,950 --> 01:31:35,280
got pictures of of the mimics not close

2209
01:31:39,510 --> 01:31:36,960
up but but you can tell there's

2210
01:31:41,350 --> 01:31:39,520
something there with wings with a long

2211
01:31:44,550 --> 01:31:41,360
body

2212
01:31:46,390 --> 01:31:44,560
and so then it gets even stranger while

2213
01:31:48,229 --> 01:31:46,400
we were standing there talking about it

2214
01:31:49,830 --> 01:31:48,239
these fairies came

2215
01:31:52,149 --> 01:31:49,840
and a whole bunch of them flew around

2216
01:31:54,229 --> 01:31:52,159
the area and i i we're just

2217
01:31:56,070 --> 01:31:54,239
floored about what we're looking at

2218
01:31:58,709 --> 01:31:56,080
nobody even thought to get a video

2219
01:32:01,270 --> 01:31:58,719
camera out because we're shocked

2220
01:32:03,430 --> 01:32:01,280
that we're looking at fairies

2221
01:32:05,110 --> 01:32:03,440
and the lady says i just don't know why

2222
01:32:06,629 --> 01:32:05,120
they want to hang around that tree and i

2223
01:32:08,870 --> 01:32:06,639
looked on the ground

2224
01:32:10,629 --> 01:32:08,880
and here are these vegetables laying all

2225
01:32:13,189 --> 01:32:10,639
over the ground

2226
01:32:14,950 --> 01:32:13,199
and i said what are why is this

2227
01:32:16,950 --> 01:32:14,960
food here she says oh that's where we

2228
01:32:19,590 --> 01:32:16,960
put our garbage

2229
01:32:21,910 --> 01:32:19,600
on the on the ground outside i said well

2230
01:32:23,830 --> 01:32:21,920
here's why they're here it's a food

2231
01:32:26,790 --> 01:32:23,840
source

2232
01:32:27,590 --> 01:32:26,800
for them and so that you know like okay

2233
01:32:29,590 --> 01:32:27,600
so

2234
01:32:32,149 --> 01:32:29,600
we figured that part out

2235
01:32:33,270 --> 01:32:32,159
then they tell me about a pterodactyl

2236
01:32:35,189 --> 01:32:33,280
sighting

2237
01:32:38,629 --> 01:32:35,199
i said okay i got to see where this was

2238
01:32:40,550 --> 01:32:38,639
so we drove to kitchen lake

2239
01:32:43,270 --> 01:32:40,560
we get out and they

2240
01:32:45,350 --> 01:32:43,280
give me this long explanation about how

2241
01:32:46,950 --> 01:32:45,360
they were at the lake and the two of

2242
01:32:50,629 --> 01:32:46,960
them were together and they saw this

2243
01:32:52,550 --> 01:32:50,639
thing fly overhead it glided

2244
01:32:54,629 --> 01:32:52,560
and it didn't i don't think it flapped

2245
01:32:56,629 --> 01:32:54,639
its wings it glided over she said

2246
01:32:57,830 --> 01:32:56,639
there's it was huge

2247
01:33:00,310 --> 01:32:57,840
and it had

2248
01:33:01,510 --> 01:33:00,320
uh wings that looked like with no

2249
01:33:03,910 --> 01:33:01,520
feathers

2250
01:33:05,189 --> 01:33:03,920
and the head and the feet just like a

2251
01:33:08,950 --> 01:33:05,199
pterodactyl

2252
01:33:11,590 --> 01:33:08,960
sighting i've been i've been hearing

2253
01:33:12,950 --> 01:33:11,600
several of them lately it's absolutely

2254
01:33:15,110 --> 01:33:12,960
crazy

2255
01:33:17,110 --> 01:33:15,120
but these people are

2256
01:33:18,950 --> 01:33:17,120
they're down to earth

2257
01:33:20,709 --> 01:33:18,960
they don't seem crazy

2258
01:33:23,830 --> 01:33:20,719
i i think it's really happening and now

2259
01:33:25,830 --> 01:33:23,840
here's the thing not long ago

2260
01:33:29,030 --> 01:33:25,840
another family about a mile from this

2261
01:33:30,550 --> 01:33:29,040
location filed a report with mindy

2262
01:33:32,229 --> 01:33:30,560
and mindy calls me up on the phone she

2263
01:33:34,709 --> 01:33:32,239
says you're not going to believe this

2264
01:33:36,950 --> 01:33:34,719
i've got a mother and a daughter who are

2265
01:33:39,030 --> 01:33:36,960
seeing tiny one-inch fairies in their

2266
01:33:40,790 --> 01:33:39,040
backyard

2267
01:33:43,430 --> 01:33:40,800
now you don't get they're also seeing

2268
01:33:45,669 --> 01:33:43,440
ufos they're seeing the ufos as well so

2269
01:33:48,070 --> 01:33:45,679
here we have just a mile difference

2270
01:33:51,430 --> 01:33:48,080
along the same park right

2271
01:33:53,910 --> 01:33:51,440
somebody coming up with ufos and fairies

2272
01:33:56,629 --> 01:33:53,920
together

2273
01:33:59,990 --> 01:33:56,639
that uh that's the uh that's not a

2274
01:34:01,590 --> 01:34:00,000
trifecta that's a four fecta

2275
01:34:03,110 --> 01:34:01,600
yeah especially since they don't know

2276
01:34:05,110 --> 01:34:03,120
each other these families don't know

2277
01:34:07,830 --> 01:34:05,120
each other the um

2278
01:34:08,790 --> 01:34:07,840
and and this this started about a year

2279
01:34:14,709 --> 01:34:08,800
ago

2280
01:34:17,430 --> 01:34:14,719
how how old are these homes

2281
01:34:20,149 --> 01:34:17,440
oh they're old yeah okay so this is i'd

2282
01:34:21,990 --> 01:34:20,159
say they were built in probably the 60s

2283
01:34:24,950 --> 01:34:22,000
okay so uh

2284
01:34:26,629 --> 01:34:24,960
50 60 year old homes old established

2285
01:34:29,110 --> 01:34:26,639
neighborhood

2286
01:34:30,149 --> 01:34:29,120
definitely very interesting very

2287
01:34:31,030 --> 01:34:30,159
interesting

2288
01:34:34,870 --> 01:34:31,040
um

2289
01:34:37,030 --> 01:34:34,880
the uh the ufo itself

2290
01:34:39,110 --> 01:34:37,040
have they gotten

2291
01:34:41,189 --> 01:34:39,120
any pictures i do want to see the ghost

2292
01:34:42,629 --> 01:34:41,199
lady

2293
01:34:44,709 --> 01:34:42,639
i'll send you a picture of the ghost

2294
01:34:47,590 --> 01:34:44,719
lady it's wild

2295
01:34:48,790 --> 01:34:47,600
yeah they've gotten video of the ufos

2296
01:34:50,390 --> 01:34:48,800
too

2297
01:34:51,750 --> 01:34:50,400
they look like lights in the sky in the

2298
01:34:54,070 --> 01:34:51,760
video

2299
01:34:55,830 --> 01:34:54,080
it sounds

2300
01:34:58,229 --> 01:34:55,840
it has to be all connected i'm just

2301
01:35:00,229 --> 01:34:58,239
trying to figure out how yeah

2302
01:35:01,750 --> 01:35:00,239
well here's here's the thing and this

2303
01:35:04,709 --> 01:35:01,760
this is my

2304
01:35:06,870 --> 01:35:04,719
opinion and it's what i talk about in my

2305
01:35:08,390 --> 01:35:06,880
book winged aliens

2306
01:35:10,550 --> 01:35:08,400
the the

2307
01:35:13,590 --> 01:35:10,560
these creatures are aliens

2308
01:35:14,550 --> 01:35:13,600
the wing creatures fairies

2309
01:35:16,310 --> 01:35:14,560
even

2310
01:35:17,910 --> 01:35:16,320
now the pterodactyls are the only thing

2311
01:35:20,629 --> 01:35:17,920
i i'm questioning

2312
01:35:23,350 --> 01:35:20,639
i i think that might be a time slip

2313
01:35:24,790 --> 01:35:23,360
where you know that that's something

2314
01:35:25,669 --> 01:35:24,800
something different

2315
01:35:27,990 --> 01:35:25,679
but

2316
01:35:29,590 --> 01:35:28,000
the uh mothman

2317
01:35:31,350 --> 01:35:29,600
oh i can't tell you how many mothman

2318
01:35:33,430 --> 01:35:31,360
sightings i have i have a huge case in

2319
01:35:36,070 --> 01:35:33,440
kansas city with mothman too

2320
01:35:38,629 --> 01:35:36,080
but all over there's humanoids giant

2321
01:35:41,510 --> 01:35:38,639
humanoids with bat like wings okay then

2322
01:35:44,470 --> 01:35:41,520
we have the giant birds that nobody can

2323
01:35:45,669 --> 01:35:44,480
explain including a thunderbird

2324
01:35:48,070 --> 01:35:45,679
and

2325
01:35:50,709 --> 01:35:48,080
i'm telling you i saw one

2326
01:35:53,109 --> 01:35:50,719
i saw one myself so i know that there

2327
01:35:55,510 --> 01:35:53,119
they exist but it's interdimensional

2328
01:35:57,270 --> 01:35:55,520
because it appears and disappears now

2329
01:35:59,030 --> 01:35:57,280
here's here was the thing that was icing

2330
01:36:01,109 --> 01:35:59,040
on the cake for me that these wing

2331
01:36:02,950 --> 01:36:01,119
creatures are aliens

2332
01:36:04,790 --> 01:36:02,960
there is a witness

2333
01:36:07,350 --> 01:36:04,800
the lady i mentioned earlier in sugar

2334
01:36:08,470 --> 01:36:07,360
creek missouri she has a lot of

2335
01:36:11,030 --> 01:36:08,480
sightings

2336
01:36:12,870 --> 01:36:11,040
this has been investigated by myself and

2337
01:36:14,310 --> 01:36:12,880
gene walker our section director for

2338
01:36:17,189 --> 01:36:14,320
kansas city

2339
01:36:20,550 --> 01:36:17,199
on multiple occasions

2340
01:36:22,629 --> 01:36:20,560
the and the lady every time we go or

2341
01:36:24,390 --> 01:36:22,639
together or if gene goes by herself or

2342
01:36:25,669 --> 01:36:24,400
whatever something happens there there's

2343
01:36:27,910 --> 01:36:25,679
always something

2344
01:36:32,470 --> 01:36:27,920
so the this is absolutely true she's

2345
01:36:36,870 --> 01:36:35,430
she saw a hawk one day

2346
01:36:38,470 --> 01:36:36,880
the hawk

2347
01:36:40,470 --> 01:36:38,480
just looked like a very if she thought

2348
01:36:42,149 --> 01:36:40,480
it was an eagle because it was so big

2349
01:36:44,550 --> 01:36:42,159
then she realized it didn't have a white

2350
01:36:46,950 --> 01:36:44,560
head so it couldn't have been an eagle

2351
01:36:48,470 --> 01:36:46,960
but so here's this large bird flying

2352
01:36:52,149 --> 01:36:48,480
she's just thinking that it's just a

2353
01:36:55,189 --> 01:36:52,159
large bird and it suddenly morphs into a

2354
01:36:59,750 --> 01:36:55,199
silver disc shaped ufo

2355
01:37:02,790 --> 01:36:59,760
and takes off at a high rate of speed

2356
01:37:04,790 --> 01:37:02,800
now what the heck is that that is not

2357
01:37:07,830 --> 01:37:04,800
something that is in

2358
01:37:09,430 --> 01:37:07,840
even in our vocabulary right even in our

2359
01:37:11,830 --> 01:37:09,440
wildest dreams

2360
01:37:14,709 --> 01:37:11,840
we wouldn't think but we do see

2361
01:37:17,189 --> 01:37:14,719
ufos morph sometimes people see it see

2362
01:37:18,950 --> 01:37:17,199
ufos change shapes

2363
01:37:20,870 --> 01:37:18,960
is it a screen memory

2364
01:37:23,830 --> 01:37:20,880
is it something

2365
01:37:25,590 --> 01:37:23,840
where they're cloaking as a bird

2366
01:37:27,669 --> 01:37:25,600
so that people won't suspect anything

2367
01:37:28,870 --> 01:37:27,679
and they can get down close to us

2368
01:37:31,189 --> 01:37:28,880
and then

2369
01:37:32,470 --> 01:37:31,199
go into their normal shape and and take

2370
01:37:35,189 --> 01:37:32,480
off

2371
01:37:37,350 --> 01:37:35,199
uh there's just a ton of questions about

2372
01:37:38,310 --> 01:37:37,360
this but there's no question that it's

2373
01:37:41,109 --> 01:37:38,320
happening

2374
01:37:43,270 --> 01:37:41,119
now this uh i want to talk about this

2375
01:37:45,990 --> 01:37:43,280
pterodactyl for a second it's the same

2376
01:37:48,709 --> 01:37:46,000
family it's the same couple that have

2377
01:37:50,950 --> 01:37:48,719
had the pterodactyl sighting

2378
01:37:52,629 --> 01:37:50,960
yes the same couple had the ufos and the

2379
01:37:55,830 --> 01:37:52,639
fairies and the ghost has had the

2380
01:37:57,109 --> 01:37:55,840
pterodactyl sliding how far away from

2381
01:37:59,270 --> 01:37:57,119
their home

2382
01:38:04,709 --> 01:37:59,280
did they see this pterodactyl

2383
01:38:09,109 --> 01:38:06,790
what are the odds of somebody having you

2384
01:38:10,229 --> 01:38:09,119
know ufos and fairies you know in their

2385
01:38:13,109 --> 01:38:10,239
yard

2386
01:38:14,070 --> 01:38:13,119
and and then having a pterodactyl

2387
01:38:15,830 --> 01:38:14,080
sighting

2388
01:38:18,390 --> 01:38:15,840
i i don't know that i don't know the

2389
01:38:20,310 --> 01:38:18,400
connection but it it's there

2390
01:38:21,590 --> 01:38:20,320
about a billion to one i would think

2391
01:38:23,910 --> 01:38:21,600
right right

2392
01:38:25,030 --> 01:38:23,920
and now now i here's

2393
01:38:26,709 --> 01:38:25,040
the other thing

2394
01:38:28,950 --> 01:38:26,719
i have a number of people who have

2395
01:38:32,149 --> 01:38:28,960
reported seeing pterodactyls but these

2396
01:38:34,790 --> 01:38:32,159
people are also ufo experiencers they

2397
01:38:37,669 --> 01:38:34,800
have seen at least once and and probably

2398
01:38:39,270 --> 01:38:37,679
on numerous occasions have seen ufos so

2399
01:38:40,550 --> 01:38:39,280
there could be a connection there too

2400
01:38:43,030 --> 01:38:40,560
they might be

2401
01:38:45,350 --> 01:38:43,040
like i said earlier cloaking

2402
01:38:47,350 --> 01:38:45,360
as something else

2403
01:38:49,750 --> 01:38:47,360
and they just chose that for whatever

2404
01:38:51,510 --> 01:38:49,760
reason what a what a fantastic camera

2405
01:38:53,590 --> 01:38:51,520
you know what you should do margie i'm

2406
01:38:56,070 --> 01:38:53,600
going to give you a little tip

2407
01:38:58,709 --> 01:38:56,080
you should start a radio network and and

2408
01:39:01,430 --> 01:38:58,719
maybe do a show

2409
01:39:04,310 --> 01:39:01,440
i'll i'll take that under advice yeah

2410
01:39:06,550 --> 01:39:04,320
there's something here i feel it i i

2411
01:39:09,350 --> 01:39:06,560
feel it uh that's a good idea yeah

2412
01:39:10,790 --> 01:39:09,360
that's kind of conversation but um uh a

2413
01:39:13,990 --> 01:39:10,800
tarot okay

2414
01:39:16,950 --> 01:39:14,000
but the the fairies i'm wondering and

2415
01:39:20,310 --> 01:39:16,960
you know thunderbirds another side

2416
01:39:22,790 --> 01:39:20,320
maybe it's not a pterodactyl and maybe

2417
01:39:24,550 --> 01:39:22,800
it's another winged creature and it

2418
01:39:26,870 --> 01:39:24,560
looks similar

2419
01:39:29,750 --> 01:39:26,880
to a pterodactyl but it's not you know a

2420
01:39:32,470 --> 01:39:29,760
dinosaur it's not a a pterodactyl it's

2421
01:39:34,390 --> 01:39:32,480
something else mothman is has the same

2422
01:39:37,030 --> 01:39:34,400
type of wings

2423
01:39:38,550 --> 01:39:37,040
is is that a possibility

2424
01:39:40,470 --> 01:39:38,560
well

2425
01:39:43,669 --> 01:39:40,480
they look so different

2426
01:39:46,390 --> 01:39:43,679
i don't know but there are all i mean

2427
01:39:48,950 --> 01:39:46,400
there's any scenario you pick it

2428
01:39:49,750 --> 01:39:48,960
you know yeah we don't know what it is

2429
01:39:51,430 --> 01:39:49,760
yet

2430
01:39:53,109 --> 01:39:51,440
and who knows we might not

2431
01:39:54,950 --> 01:39:53,119
ever know

2432
01:39:57,590 --> 01:39:54,960
but i think the mothman is also

2433
01:40:00,070 --> 01:39:57,600
interdimensional

2434
01:40:01,910 --> 01:40:00,080
because there are some cases i've been

2435
01:40:03,830 --> 01:40:01,920
working on

2436
01:40:06,629 --> 01:40:03,840
where they simply

2437
01:40:09,430 --> 01:40:06,639
disappear and and nobody has ever caught

2438
01:40:12,629 --> 01:40:09,440
one or found a body of one it's like

2439
01:40:15,350 --> 01:40:12,639
sasquatch the same thing i mean there

2440
01:40:17,669 --> 01:40:15,360
you see them you see their footprints

2441
01:40:18,950 --> 01:40:17,679
you get cast of their footprints nobody

2442
01:40:19,750 --> 01:40:18,960
has ever

2443
01:40:21,910 --> 01:40:19,760
well

2444
01:40:24,070 --> 01:40:21,920
supposedly some people have but you know

2445
01:40:27,189 --> 01:40:24,080
who knows right right right they might

2446
01:40:28,310 --> 01:40:27,199
have been hoaxes uh

2447
01:40:30,229 --> 01:40:28,320
it's the same sort of thing where did

2448
01:40:32,229 --> 01:40:30,239
they go well how

2449
01:40:34,070 --> 01:40:32,239
if you follow i know one case here in

2450
01:40:36,390 --> 01:40:34,080
missouri of sasquatch

2451
01:40:38,550 --> 01:40:36,400
this deputy sheriff followed sasquatch

2452
01:40:40,629 --> 01:40:38,560
prince for a mile in the snow and then

2453
01:40:42,709 --> 01:40:40,639
they suddenly just stopped and there was

2454
01:40:45,350 --> 01:40:42,719
no place for anything to have gone where

2455
01:40:47,109 --> 01:40:45,360
did it go it's it's interdimensional has

2456
01:40:49,990 --> 01:40:47,119
to be

2457
01:40:53,030 --> 01:40:50,000
i have seen a lot of things um i don't

2458
01:40:55,590 --> 01:40:53,040
know how i could deal with uh

2459
01:40:58,229 --> 01:40:55,600
i'm okay with flying saucers all day

2460
01:40:59,669 --> 01:40:58,239
long you know bigfoot that would be

2461
01:41:01,590 --> 01:40:59,679
pterodactyl

2462
01:41:04,870 --> 01:41:01,600
for me is taking it to another level i

2463
01:41:07,270 --> 01:41:04,880
don't know how i would react to that

2464
01:41:09,669 --> 01:41:07,280
i don't either i've i've never seen one

2465
01:41:11,590 --> 01:41:09,679
uh i'd kind of like to see one just to

2466
01:41:12,790 --> 01:41:11,600
see what other people are seeing but not

2467
01:41:15,030 --> 01:41:12,800
up close

2468
01:41:17,669 --> 01:41:15,040
that is fascinating to me i saw jurassic

2469
01:41:21,669 --> 01:41:19,270
not close

2470
01:41:23,430 --> 01:41:21,679
i just watched uh

2471
01:41:26,390 --> 01:41:23,440
read

2472
01:41:29,109 --> 01:41:26,400
uh the new ryan reynolds movie with uh

2473
01:41:31,189 --> 01:41:29,119
dwayne johnson the rock

2474
01:41:33,669 --> 01:41:31,199
red i can't remember it's not it's on

2475
01:41:37,910 --> 01:41:33,679
netflix but there's a hilarious scene

2476
01:41:39,109 --> 01:41:37,920
about uh jurassic park in a in a uh in a

2477
01:41:41,910 --> 01:41:39,119
bowl ring

2478
01:41:44,310 --> 01:41:41,920
i think it's in spain it's a hilarious i

2479
01:41:45,990 --> 01:41:44,320
saw it i saw it it is hilarious you know

2480
01:41:47,669 --> 01:41:46,000
the scene i'm talking about right yeah

2481
01:41:49,590 --> 01:41:47,679
yeah it's just a funny scene let's take

2482
01:41:51,189 --> 01:41:49,600
our break right here this is fade to

2483
01:41:54,070 --> 01:41:51,199
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2484
01:41:55,910 --> 01:41:54,080
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2485
01:41:59,270 --> 01:41:55,920
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2486
01:42:01,669 --> 01:41:59,280
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2488
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[Music]

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welcome back fade to black i'm your host

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jimmy church tonight margie k is with us

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next up the great state of kansas and uh

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but before we get to that

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uh margie i have an update from jt in

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indy

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and uh he uh said earlier that his

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granddaughter came in and laid down an

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extra grandma and said hey just saw me a

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ufo

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and uh

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she said i saw the alien and the

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spaceship

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so

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jt followed that up with

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she said nonchalantly a triangle with a

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bump on it

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and uh he said i think tomorrow i'm

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going to have her draw a picture do you

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think that's a good idea i said

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absolutely and then he says um

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she was just so matter-of-fact and

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nonchalant about it

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you know jt's uh listening right now

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what kind of advice would you have

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are you a grandmother

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yes i am how how many grandkids i'm

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jealous seven oh what

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oh man what are their

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names oh gosh

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do you want me to remember their names

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that is i i i i want to be a grandfather

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so bad

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i do um uh okay so anyway uh what what

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do you encourage uh

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a child of that age

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you know you just let it go

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i think this is not the first time that

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child has seen that

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and that's why it wasn't shocking to

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them

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so uh i would say that if

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they're still speaking about it matter

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of factly then you should speak about it

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in the same manner

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and just ask some questions

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you don't want to be excited right you

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don't want

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don't make the child nervous at all

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right just act like this is a normal

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everyday thing

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and you'll get the answer

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and you can ask them if

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uh

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if they've seen it before if they've

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seen the e.t before to see an alien

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you know and where and don't be

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surprised if the if the answers come and

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and they're visiting inside the house

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do you really want to find that out oh

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yeah

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well here's the thing i i tell everybody

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you know they have the scary movies and

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and the people talk about abductions all

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the time and the reptilians and the evil

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aliens well the thing is

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that in my experience i've done over

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1200 cases and not one of those cases

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and including my own i have my own

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01:49:54,550 --> 01:49:52,550
i've only had

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two cases

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where there was something negative

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about it

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now

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and if you if you take a look at the uh

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free foundation ray hernandez

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they did a huge huge study

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with thousands of people

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overwhelmingly

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percentage-wise the people had positive

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experiences with et's

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so my consensus is they are here to help

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us not to hurt us

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and according to thor they're here to

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help

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consciousness

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right but there are other reasons they

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people do they have are healed by et's

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all the time me included

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01:50:42,229 --> 01:50:39,920
so that's that's my take on it and i and

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01:50:44,070 --> 01:50:42,239
i so i see no reason to believe

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01:50:46,229 --> 01:50:44,080
that this child is having a negative

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01:50:48,709 --> 01:50:46,239
experience especially since they don't

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01:50:50,550 --> 01:50:48,719
appear to be upset about it

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i um

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01:50:57,510 --> 01:50:51,520
uh

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01:51:00,070 --> 01:50:57,520
in this house right i do i do but i've

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01:51:02,470 --> 01:51:00,080
just resigned

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in my mind rather than go into panic

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mode or set up cameras and and bust out

2694
01:51:11,030 --> 01:51:08,639
meters and and go through that

2695
01:51:13,109 --> 01:51:11,040
i'm just going to leave it go

2696
01:51:16,149 --> 01:51:13,119
i i've accepted the fact that i've got

2697
01:51:17,030 --> 01:51:16,159
stuff moving around in my home right

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and

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that's it i i just don't want to know i

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don't want to i don't want to know who

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01:51:24,310 --> 01:51:21,520
it is

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01:51:26,870 --> 01:51:24,320
i don't know i i i i just don't want to

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01:51:29,589 --> 01:51:26,880
know you know so uh

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01:51:31,750 --> 01:51:29,599
i i put the shoes back i put the stuff

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01:51:34,390 --> 01:51:31,760
back if something is moved

2706
01:51:36,310 --> 01:51:34,400
uh i'm not panicking

2707
01:51:38,790 --> 01:51:36,320
when if when it first started happening

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01:51:40,790 --> 01:51:38,800
margie i laughed and i i looked in the

2709
01:51:42,870 --> 01:51:40,800
mirror in my bedroom

2710
01:51:44,149 --> 01:51:42,880
and at myself and i went i've got a

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01:51:45,830 --> 01:51:44,159
ghost

2712
01:51:48,470 --> 01:51:45,840
this is cool

2713
01:51:50,709 --> 01:51:48,480
and and then it continued and i started

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01:51:52,870 --> 01:51:50,719
to you know and i started to mess with i

2715
01:51:55,830 --> 01:51:52,880
started to freak myself out

2716
01:51:58,070 --> 01:51:55,840
and i just let it go i just let it go i

2717
01:51:59,830 --> 01:51:58,080
i was going to set up cameras and do

2718
01:52:01,430 --> 01:51:59,840
this whole paranormal thing you know

2719
01:52:03,350 --> 01:52:01,440
what i don't want to see stuff move i

2720
01:52:04,229 --> 01:52:03,360
don't want it caught on camera not in my

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01:52:06,470 --> 01:52:04,239
home

2722
01:52:09,109 --> 01:52:06,480
somebody else's house that's okay

2723
01:52:10,070 --> 01:52:09,119
but but here yeah i'm just gonna let it

2724
01:52:12,310 --> 01:52:10,080
slide

2725
01:52:13,750 --> 01:52:12,320
that that's advice that i give

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01:52:15,669 --> 01:52:13,760
a lot of people i've done a lot of

2727
01:52:18,629 --> 01:52:15,679
paranormal investigations

2728
01:52:21,270 --> 01:52:18,639
and had interactions with ghosts

2729
01:52:23,669 --> 01:52:21,280
if they are

2730
01:52:25,030 --> 01:52:23,679
a negative or a trickster

2731
01:52:26,709 --> 01:52:25,040
because a lot of times they just want

2732
01:52:28,310 --> 01:52:26,719
attention or they want to tell you

2733
01:52:30,470 --> 01:52:28,320
something then other times they just

2734
01:52:32,629 --> 01:52:30,480
want to play jokes on people

2735
01:52:35,510 --> 01:52:32,639
if you ignore them the more you ignore

2736
01:52:37,430 --> 01:52:35,520
them the less they will do things the

2737
01:52:39,270 --> 01:52:37,440
lesser they'll bother you

2738
01:52:40,310 --> 01:52:39,280
so if you don't talk about it in your

2739
01:52:41,830 --> 01:52:40,320
house

2740
01:52:44,950 --> 01:52:41,840
and it you know if you see something

2741
01:52:47,189 --> 01:52:44,960
missing and you know just go on i i've

2742
01:52:49,270 --> 01:52:47,199
got one here in my office

2743
01:52:51,109 --> 01:52:49,280
he's very persistent he does all kinds

2744
01:52:52,229 --> 01:52:51,119
of things he hides things and then and

2745
01:52:53,589 --> 01:52:52,239
then

2746
01:52:55,830 --> 01:52:53,599
just the other day i was looking for

2747
01:52:57,109 --> 01:52:55,840
something really important i had had it

2748
01:52:58,629 --> 01:52:57,119
on my desk

2749
01:53:00,390 --> 01:52:58,639
and i turned around and i looked

2750
01:53:02,390 --> 01:53:00,400
everywhere i cleared off my entire desk

2751
01:53:03,750 --> 01:53:02,400
i put everything back and then the thing

2752
01:53:04,870 --> 01:53:03,760
just appeared right in the middle of my

2753
01:53:06,870 --> 01:53:04,880
desk

2754
01:53:08,629 --> 01:53:06,880
so he you know he was he's just joking

2755
01:53:10,870 --> 01:53:08,639
around and playing tricks

2756
01:53:12,229 --> 01:53:10,880
now if it gets super negative

2757
01:53:13,189 --> 01:53:12,239
then you probably need to call in

2758
01:53:15,750 --> 01:53:13,199
somebody

2759
01:53:18,229 --> 01:53:15,760
for some help but it sounds to me like

2760
01:53:19,910 --> 01:53:18,239
they're just a trickster yeah yeah yeah

2761
01:53:23,030 --> 01:53:19,920
i think that's the best way to approach

2762
01:53:24,550 --> 01:53:23,040
it i i i

2763
01:53:27,430 --> 01:53:24,560
i just don't want to know and this is

2764
01:53:29,109 --> 01:53:27,440
the thing uh we've all seen

2765
01:53:31,669 --> 01:53:29,119
you know ghost adventures in these

2766
01:53:33,270 --> 01:53:31,679
paranormal tv shows and

2767
01:53:35,510 --> 01:53:33,280
um and

2768
01:53:37,910 --> 01:53:35,520
you know a voice in the background and

2769
01:53:39,750 --> 01:53:37,920
you see it on tv

2770
01:53:41,589 --> 01:53:39,760
it's whatever

2771
01:53:44,310 --> 01:53:41,599
but it happened to me

2772
01:53:47,910 --> 01:53:44,320
uh during the ghost investigation and we

2773
01:53:49,669 --> 01:53:47,920
were on the queen mary uh on halloween

2774
01:53:52,470 --> 01:53:49,679
uh last year

2775
01:53:55,589 --> 01:53:52,480
and you know so we've got multiple crews

2776
01:53:57,750 --> 01:53:55,599
and and uh live streaming and this big

2777
01:53:59,270 --> 01:53:57,760
tv production and and it was wonderful

2778
01:54:01,910 --> 01:53:59,280
it was a great experience

2779
01:54:04,709 --> 01:54:01,920
uh and so we had like three teams uh on

2780
01:54:07,510 --> 01:54:04,719
the ship and we were down in this room

2781
01:54:10,310 --> 01:54:07,520
not to get into the story um i want to

2782
01:54:13,109 --> 01:54:10,320
get to kansas but so we're sitting there

2783
01:54:15,270 --> 01:54:13,119
and i'm with tony rathman you know tony

2784
01:54:17,510 --> 01:54:15,280
and his wife sheree and we've got about

2785
01:54:19,830 --> 01:54:17,520
10 people in this suite

2786
01:54:23,109 --> 01:54:19,840
and at this quiet moment i've got the

2787
01:54:25,350 --> 01:54:23,119
cameras uh three camera dudes and uh uh

2788
01:54:27,189 --> 01:54:25,360
the sound guy with the boom he's right

2789
01:54:29,830 --> 01:54:27,199
here and so they're on this side of me

2790
01:54:33,109 --> 01:54:29,840
tony's sitting in front of me

2791
01:54:35,990 --> 01:54:33,119
sheree is uh to his right

2792
01:54:38,790 --> 01:54:36,000
at that moment quiet

2793
01:54:40,229 --> 01:54:38,800
i hear this female voice go

2794
01:54:42,390 --> 01:54:40,239
hmm

2795
01:54:43,270 --> 01:54:42,400
and it came from up here

2796
01:54:46,310 --> 01:54:43,280
right

2797
01:54:49,270 --> 01:54:46,320
and i look and tony looks and tony

2798
01:54:52,950 --> 01:54:49,280
looked over his shoulder

2799
01:54:54,950 --> 01:54:52,960
we all heard it but tony and i

2800
01:54:56,310 --> 01:54:54,960
you know one of these i was like

2801
01:54:58,390 --> 01:54:56,320
what

2802
01:54:59,189 --> 01:54:58,400
and it was loud

2803
01:55:04,550 --> 01:54:59,199
and

2804
01:55:06,790 --> 01:55:04,560
uh then you start to realize that there

2805
01:55:07,910 --> 01:55:06,800
was something going on i mean it was it

2806
01:55:10,629 --> 01:55:07,920
was real

2807
01:55:11,990 --> 01:55:10,639
it was crazy it was crazy i walked to my

2808
01:55:14,149 --> 01:55:12,000
car that night

2809
01:55:16,310 --> 01:55:14,159
uh left the ship

2810
01:55:18,790 --> 01:55:16,320
and i'm walking across the parking lot

2811
01:55:20,310 --> 01:55:18,800
and i said to myself

2812
01:55:23,750 --> 01:55:20,320
i heard a voice

2813
01:55:26,229 --> 01:55:23,760
i said it to myself out loud and i was

2814
01:55:29,109 --> 01:55:26,239
stunned i was stunned all right so uh

2815
01:55:31,030 --> 01:55:29,119
kansas what's going on in kansas

2816
01:55:35,109 --> 01:55:31,040
well i don't do a whole lot of

2817
01:55:37,990 --> 01:55:35,119
investigating in kansas uh but

2818
01:55:39,589 --> 01:55:38,000
i have a case that i've been working on

2819
01:55:41,189 --> 01:55:39,599
for about a year

2820
01:55:44,070 --> 01:55:41,199
that came to me

2821
01:55:46,070 --> 01:55:44,080
uh just to me directly

2822
01:55:48,709 --> 01:55:46,080
and there there's a lot going on with

2823
01:55:50,470 --> 01:55:48,719
this person

2824
01:55:51,750 --> 01:55:50,480
basically

2825
01:55:57,430 --> 01:55:51,760
he

2826
01:56:00,790 --> 01:55:57,440
old piece of uh a farm that's been in

2827
01:56:02,149 --> 01:56:00,800
his family for about 200 years

2828
01:56:05,350 --> 01:56:02,159
and

2829
01:56:07,750 --> 01:56:05,360
he started having experiences when he

2830
01:56:10,149 --> 01:56:07,760
was a child he would see these lights

2831
01:56:12,229 --> 01:56:10,159
out outside of his house

2832
01:56:14,149 --> 01:56:12,239
and these balls of light would come in

2833
01:56:16,070 --> 01:56:14,159
and come towards him and later in the

2834
01:56:17,589 --> 01:56:16,080
evening it was he would look outside

2835
01:56:19,270 --> 01:56:17,599
late at night if he got up in the middle

2836
01:56:22,229 --> 01:56:19,280
of the night he'd look out there and the

2837
01:56:23,669 --> 01:56:22,239
lights would seemingly know that he was

2838
01:56:25,189 --> 01:56:23,679
looking at them

2839
01:56:28,629 --> 01:56:25,199
and so they would come from across the

2840
01:56:30,870 --> 01:56:28,639
field and come over to his window

2841
01:56:32,950 --> 01:56:30,880
and you know he just he wasn't scared of

2842
01:56:35,270 --> 01:56:32,960
them he just wondered what they were

2843
01:56:36,629 --> 01:56:35,280
about the size of a baseball or a

2844
01:56:38,550 --> 01:56:36,639
softball

2845
01:56:40,870 --> 01:56:38,560
these whitish blue lights and then they

2846
01:56:43,910 --> 01:56:40,880
would just go back and go back out into

2847
01:56:46,310 --> 01:56:43,920
the field now i've had a number of cases

2848
01:56:48,550 --> 01:56:46,320
just like this by the way

2849
01:56:50,310 --> 01:56:48,560
but they seem to be

2850
01:56:52,229 --> 01:56:50,320
intelligent and there would be a number

2851
01:56:53,350 --> 01:56:52,239
of them they'd like play around you know

2852
01:56:56,790 --> 01:56:53,360
in

2853
01:56:59,750 --> 01:56:56,800
the trees

2854
01:57:01,589 --> 01:56:59,760
and then and then go off somewhere

2855
01:57:03,189 --> 01:57:01,599
well then in later years

2856
01:57:05,750 --> 01:57:03,199
recently

2857
01:57:07,430 --> 01:57:05,760
he's seeing the lights again but they

2858
01:57:09,270 --> 01:57:07,440
they they've stayed at a distance for a

2859
01:57:11,350 --> 01:57:09,280
number of years they haven't since he's

2860
01:57:12,550 --> 01:57:11,360
been an adult they don't hang around so

2861
01:57:13,350 --> 01:57:12,560
much

2862
01:57:18,790 --> 01:57:13,360
but

2863
01:57:21,350 --> 01:57:18,800
they're big craft

2864
01:57:23,270 --> 01:57:21,360
usually an oblong shape or a disc shape

2865
01:57:25,510 --> 01:57:23,280
or a round shape

2866
01:57:27,990 --> 01:57:25,520
and they cut they come in almost on a

2867
01:57:29,030 --> 01:57:28,000
nightly basis

2868
01:57:31,669 --> 01:57:29,040
so

2869
01:57:33,189 --> 01:57:31,679
recently and this is just in the last

2870
01:57:35,109 --> 01:57:33,199
few months

2871
01:57:37,510 --> 01:57:35,119
he'd been hearing noises in his house

2872
01:57:39,430 --> 01:57:37,520
and he thought it was a ghost

2873
01:57:40,629 --> 01:57:39,440
he got up one night after he heard some

2874
01:57:42,229 --> 01:57:40,639
noises

2875
01:57:42,950 --> 01:57:42,239
and he went into the other room and it

2876
01:57:46,790 --> 01:57:42,960
was

2877
01:57:48,550 --> 01:57:46,800
morning

2878
01:57:51,270 --> 01:57:48,560
he goes into the front room and he sees

2879
01:57:52,390 --> 01:57:51,280
an e.t standing there and the e.t

2880
01:57:54,629 --> 01:57:52,400
goes

2881
01:57:57,990 --> 01:57:54,639
like he was shocked that the guy could

2882
01:57:59,669 --> 01:57:58,000
see him and then the e.t faded out

2883
01:58:01,109 --> 01:57:59,679
like so he

2884
01:58:02,790 --> 01:58:01,119
obviously is probably something

2885
01:58:05,510 --> 01:58:02,800
interdimensional and then he then he

2886
01:58:07,910 --> 01:58:05,520
faded out so that's when he contacted me

2887
01:58:10,070 --> 01:58:07,920
and he said i just want to know what the

2888
01:58:10,950 --> 01:58:10,080
heck is going on here

2889
01:58:12,709 --> 01:58:10,960
and

2890
01:58:15,350 --> 01:58:12,719
he said

2891
01:58:17,750 --> 01:58:15,360
so so i suggested i said have you ever

2892
01:58:19,030 --> 01:58:17,760
spoken about this to your parents or

2893
01:58:20,550 --> 01:58:19,040
your grandparents

2894
01:58:22,470 --> 01:58:20,560
he said no

2895
01:58:25,270 --> 01:58:22,480
and i said you know how long has been in

2896
01:58:27,830 --> 01:58:25,280
the family who's lived there before

2897
01:58:30,070 --> 01:58:27,840
i said i think you should bring this up

2898
01:58:32,870 --> 01:58:30,080
to them and ask him about it so he did

2899
01:58:34,790 --> 01:58:32,880
about a week later he contacted me again

2900
01:58:37,430 --> 01:58:34,800
he said sure enough

2901
01:58:40,149 --> 01:58:37,440
his mother had the same experiences her

2902
01:58:42,229 --> 01:58:40,159
entire life and his grandmother did and

2903
01:58:44,870 --> 01:58:42,239
she wasn't surprised at all and she goes

2904
01:58:47,030 --> 01:58:44,880
oh those are just the visitors he goes

2905
01:58:49,189 --> 01:58:47,040
what do you mean what visitors

2906
01:58:52,070 --> 01:58:49,199
she said the star people

2907
01:58:53,510 --> 01:58:52,080
and he's like what the heck he's got his

2908
01:58:56,470 --> 01:58:53,520
entire life

2909
01:58:58,790 --> 01:58:56,480
he's like 40 years old now and no one

2910
01:59:01,189 --> 01:58:58,800
has ever mentioned this to him in his

2911
01:59:03,109 --> 01:59:01,199
life if his family and they were very

2912
01:59:04,709 --> 01:59:03,119
nonchalant about it they they knew about

2913
01:59:07,430 --> 01:59:04,719
the whole thing

2914
01:59:08,950 --> 01:59:07,440
uh have you been out to the property

2915
01:59:09,910 --> 01:59:08,960
no i haven't been out to the property

2916
01:59:12,149 --> 01:59:09,920
yet

2917
01:59:13,350 --> 01:59:12,159
um i'd i'd like to because he has

2918
01:59:16,310 --> 01:59:13,360
ongoing

2919
01:59:18,070 --> 01:59:16,320
experiences here at the site and but

2920
01:59:20,629 --> 01:59:18,080
it's way out in the country

2921
01:59:22,950 --> 01:59:20,639
uh so i i will get there and i'll bring

2922
01:59:25,510 --> 01:59:22,960
some equipment to to videotape he's got

2923
01:59:26,709 --> 01:59:25,520
things on video and on film but

2924
01:59:30,390 --> 01:59:26,719
obviously

2925
01:59:32,229 --> 01:59:30,400
there's generations here of visitations

2926
01:59:34,550 --> 01:59:32,239
and the entire family is involved and

2927
01:59:35,589 --> 01:59:34,560
there yeah they all saw et's in their

2928
01:59:37,830 --> 01:59:35,599
house

2929
01:59:40,310 --> 01:59:37,840
since the time they were little children

2930
01:59:42,310 --> 01:59:40,320
how common is that

2931
01:59:44,709 --> 01:59:42,320
you know it's more common than you would

2932
01:59:46,629 --> 01:59:44,719
think

2933
01:59:47,830 --> 01:59:46,639
i i tell you

2934
01:59:51,589 --> 01:59:47,840
most people

2935
01:59:53,350 --> 01:59:51,599
don't report seeing things like this

2936
01:59:55,109 --> 01:59:53,360
they're they're it's very difficult to

2937
01:59:56,870 --> 01:59:55,119
get someone just to report seeing

2938
01:59:59,109 --> 01:59:56,880
something in the sky

2939
02:00:00,709 --> 01:59:59,119
when you get down to yes i saw an et in

2940
02:00:03,189 --> 02:00:00,719
my house

2941
02:00:05,669 --> 02:00:03,199
that's that's different the less of the

2942
02:00:06,870 --> 02:00:05,679
a lesser percentage report that

2943
02:00:09,510 --> 02:00:06,880
happening

2944
02:00:14,310 --> 02:00:12,149
in a lot of these cases i i'm able to

2945
02:00:15,910 --> 02:00:14,320
get draw that out of them because i

2946
02:00:18,070 --> 02:00:15,920
suspect it

2947
02:00:20,310 --> 02:00:18,080
at what you know with probably eighty

2948
02:00:22,950 --> 02:00:20,320
percent of the reports that come in

2949
02:00:24,790 --> 02:00:22,960
that are bona fide reports they are

2950
02:00:26,390 --> 02:00:24,800
experiencers there are a lot of people

2951
02:00:29,030 --> 02:00:26,400
millions and millions of people

2952
02:00:32,629 --> 02:00:29,040
are having these experiences this is a

2953
02:00:33,669 --> 02:00:32,639
human experience it is probably more

2954
02:00:34,950 --> 02:00:33,679
common

2955
02:00:36,950 --> 02:00:34,960
than not

2956
02:00:39,030 --> 02:00:36,960
but some people don't remember it at all

2957
02:00:40,629 --> 02:00:39,040
some people block it out

2958
02:00:44,709 --> 02:00:40,639
because they can't deal with it right

2959
02:00:46,790 --> 02:00:44,719
and the generational aspect um which we

2960
02:00:48,470 --> 02:00:46,800
hear so much about

2961
02:00:50,870 --> 02:00:48,480
um

2962
02:00:54,149 --> 02:00:50,880
we hear about initial sightings

2963
02:00:55,589 --> 02:00:54,159
but if you dig a little bit deeper do

2964
02:00:57,430 --> 02:00:55,599
you find that

2965
02:01:00,470 --> 02:00:57,440
their parents had sightings and their

2966
02:01:01,510 --> 02:01:00,480
grandparents and had sightings and

2967
02:01:03,270 --> 02:01:01,520
and they're

2968
02:01:05,589 --> 02:01:03,280
sometimes tied to the same you know the

2969
02:01:07,669 --> 02:01:05,599
family home that has been there and this

2970
02:01:08,629 --> 02:01:07,679
is a generational thing

2971
02:01:12,950 --> 02:01:08,639
yeah

2972
02:01:14,870 --> 02:01:12,960
follow them i mean you can't you can you

2973
02:01:17,430 --> 02:01:14,880
can't get rid of them you can't hide

2974
02:01:19,270 --> 02:01:17,440
from them they know where you are

2975
02:01:20,950 --> 02:01:19,280
uh and that and that's that's very

2976
02:01:23,430 --> 02:01:20,960
common too now people take this

2977
02:01:25,910 --> 02:01:23,440
different ways some people

2978
02:01:28,310 --> 02:01:25,920
think they're a victim

2979
02:01:31,430 --> 02:01:28,320
other people think they're being helped

2980
02:01:33,589 --> 02:01:31,440
they and they they you know they welcome

2981
02:01:35,510 --> 02:01:33,599
the contact

2982
02:01:37,189 --> 02:01:35,520
and the and the people who welcome the

2983
02:01:39,910 --> 02:01:37,199
contact

2984
02:01:41,830 --> 02:01:39,920
are usually more open-minded and they're

2985
02:01:44,390 --> 02:01:41,840
more spiritual

2986
02:01:45,830 --> 02:01:44,400
and they're open to a new experience

2987
02:01:49,350 --> 02:01:45,840
because this is really kind of a

2988
02:01:51,910 --> 02:01:49,360
spiritual experience you think about it

2989
02:01:54,390 --> 02:01:51,920
you're raising your vibration and going

2990
02:01:56,790 --> 02:01:54,400
to into actually moving into their

2991
02:01:58,870 --> 02:01:56,800
dimension when this occurs

2992
02:02:01,189 --> 02:01:58,880
it's not just one-sided it's not them

2993
02:02:03,430 --> 02:02:01,199
lowering their vibration and coming into

2994
02:02:05,589 --> 02:02:03,440
ours it's both sides that this is

2995
02:02:08,709 --> 02:02:05,599
happening to you is it genetic too as

2996
02:02:11,830 --> 02:02:08,719
well and yeah i think so yeah and

2997
02:02:13,910 --> 02:02:11,840
to to take things a step further we hear

2998
02:02:16,310 --> 02:02:13,920
uh more and more

2999
02:02:18,470 --> 02:02:16,320
about the possibility of a hybrid

3000
02:02:20,310 --> 02:02:18,480
program and that has been going on for

3001
02:02:21,270 --> 02:02:20,320
thousands of years

3002
02:02:25,350 --> 02:02:21,280
and

3003
02:02:27,189 --> 02:02:25,360
it could that be when i say genetically

3004
02:02:30,390 --> 02:02:27,199
that there is something that is

3005
02:02:33,109 --> 02:02:30,400
happening in a generational sense from

3006
02:02:35,750 --> 02:02:33,119
uh you know grandparents to you know to

3007
02:02:36,709 --> 02:02:35,760
their children and to the children

3008
02:02:40,470 --> 02:02:36,719
where

3009
02:02:42,629 --> 02:02:40,480
e.t may be monitoring the progress of of

3010
02:02:44,470 --> 02:02:42,639
what is going on

3011
02:02:46,629 --> 02:02:44,480
yeah and you could take it even further

3012
02:02:49,430 --> 02:02:46,639
than that because

3013
02:02:52,149 --> 02:02:49,440
a lot of these cases when i ask what

3014
02:02:55,109 --> 02:02:52,159
their heritage is

3015
02:02:56,790 --> 02:02:55,119
they will say celtic

3016
02:02:58,830 --> 02:02:56,800
scots irish

3017
02:03:02,709 --> 02:02:58,840
or native

3018
02:03:04,070 --> 02:03:02,719
american and i i tell you probably 95 of

3019
02:03:06,390 --> 02:03:04,080
the cases

3020
02:03:08,629 --> 02:03:06,400
that's the case and if people don't know

3021
02:03:10,629 --> 02:03:08,639
about their bloodline

3022
02:03:12,790 --> 02:03:10,639
just get on ancestry.com and start

3023
02:03:16,470 --> 02:03:12,800
searching and you'll you'll find it out

3024
02:03:19,589 --> 02:03:16,480
for me i'm scott's irish

3025
02:03:21,589 --> 02:03:19,599
and i believe that the contact came down

3026
02:03:22,790 --> 02:03:21,599
through that line through my father's

3027
02:03:26,229 --> 02:03:22,800
side

3028
02:03:28,070 --> 02:03:26,239
because all these strange strange things

3029
02:03:30,709 --> 02:03:28,080
that happened to my family going back

3030
02:03:33,109 --> 02:03:30,719
generations that we know about

3031
02:03:35,189 --> 02:03:33,119
uh that that has to be it there has to

3032
02:03:37,430 --> 02:03:35,199
be a connection i

3033
02:03:39,589 --> 02:03:37,440
they're probably

3034
02:03:41,430 --> 02:03:39,599
you know like zechariah such and said

3035
02:03:44,950 --> 02:03:41,440
and so many other people

3036
02:03:47,430 --> 02:03:44,960
the theory that we are a creation of

3037
02:03:48,870 --> 02:03:47,440
certain ets and they're monitoring us

3038
02:03:51,669 --> 02:03:48,880
and helping us

3039
02:03:54,390 --> 02:03:51,679
i just had a contact e tell me that she

3040
02:03:55,750 --> 02:03:54,400
had a visitation and she asked why are

3041
02:03:57,189 --> 02:03:55,760
you here

3042
02:03:58,709 --> 02:03:57,199
and they said

3043
02:04:01,109 --> 02:03:58,719
and they were actually putting something

3044
02:04:03,510 --> 02:04:01,119
in in her brain putting an implant in

3045
02:04:05,430 --> 02:04:03,520
her brain at the time and she

3046
02:04:07,270 --> 02:04:05,440
telepathically asked why are you doing

3047
02:04:09,910 --> 02:04:07,280
that and they said we're here to give

3048
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you a little boost in your psychic

3049
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abilities and your awareness and raise

3050
02:04:16,470 --> 02:04:13,840
your consciousness

3051
02:04:18,149 --> 02:04:16,480
so this this implant the implants may

3052
02:04:20,709 --> 02:04:18,159
not be bad things

3053
02:04:22,310 --> 02:04:20,719
and i've had other people say that they

3054
02:04:23,669 --> 02:04:22,320
found out from the ets that it was

3055
02:04:26,390 --> 02:04:23,679
something to monitor their health and

3056
02:04:28,790 --> 02:04:26,400
help them with the health issue to

3057
02:04:32,550 --> 02:04:28,800
uh keep it under control

3058
02:04:35,510 --> 02:04:32,560
now this contact in in kansas uh did he

3059
02:04:37,990 --> 02:04:35,520
describe uh the being in the living room

3060
02:04:39,669 --> 02:04:38,000
and and what he looked like or she yeah

3061
02:04:41,510 --> 02:04:39,679
yeah he said well he didn't know if it

3062
02:04:42,390 --> 02:04:41,520
was here she got the feeling that it was

3063
02:04:44,870 --> 02:04:42,400
a he

3064
02:04:48,790 --> 02:04:44,880
and it was about three feet tall it was

3065
02:04:50,629 --> 02:04:48,800
a light gray color with long arms

3066
02:04:53,990 --> 02:04:50,639
you know longer than ours would be but a

3067
02:04:55,109 --> 02:04:54,000
humanoid that was somewhat muscular but

3068
02:04:57,270 --> 02:04:55,119
very thin

3069
02:04:59,589 --> 02:04:57,280
and then you know a large head and and

3070
02:05:01,910 --> 02:04:59,599
large eyes was that the only visitation

3071
02:05:04,709 --> 02:05:01,920
was that the only contact that's that's

3072
02:05:07,589 --> 02:05:04,719
the only one that he said he he senses

3073
02:05:11,189 --> 02:05:07,599
them around other times but he hasn't

3074
02:05:14,310 --> 02:05:11,199
seen them except that time and the craft

3075
02:05:16,149 --> 02:05:14,320
when they uh finally started to arrive

3076
02:05:18,629 --> 02:05:16,159
at the property they were off at a

3077
02:05:21,589 --> 02:05:18,639
distance for a time

3078
02:05:23,589 --> 02:05:21,599
what what were those consisting of

3079
02:05:27,669 --> 02:05:23,599
did he describe those

3080
02:05:29,910 --> 02:05:27,679
uh various shapes oblong circular disc

3081
02:05:32,149 --> 02:05:29,920
shaped and then in one case

3082
02:05:34,390 --> 02:05:32,159
it was a cigar shape but it had

3083
02:05:36,870 --> 02:05:34,400
appendages coming off of it

3084
02:05:37,990 --> 02:05:36,880
uh you know some type of

3085
02:05:40,709 --> 02:05:38,000
a long

3086
02:05:43,669 --> 02:05:40,719
appendage with uh like round balls at

3087
02:05:45,669 --> 02:05:43,679
the end of it and that's i i've had a

3088
02:05:47,990 --> 02:05:45,679
report in kansas city a few years ago

3089
02:05:49,510 --> 02:05:48,000
where like 30 people saw something like

3090
02:05:51,910 --> 02:05:49,520
that too

3091
02:05:55,430 --> 02:05:51,920
and those are more unusual much more

3092
02:05:56,550 --> 02:05:55,440
unusual i can't imagine what they're for

3093
02:05:59,350 --> 02:05:56,560
unless

3094
02:06:01,750 --> 02:05:59,360
to land but

3095
02:06:04,390 --> 02:06:01,760
these um these seem to go in all

3096
02:06:07,030 --> 02:06:04,400
directions these appendages it sounds

3097
02:06:09,030 --> 02:06:07,040
like uh what was his

3098
02:06:09,750 --> 02:06:09,040
comment or what did you

3099
02:06:10,550 --> 02:06:09,760
think

3100
02:06:14,229 --> 02:06:10,560
that

3101
02:06:15,030 --> 02:06:14,239
sounds like they're coming from oklahoma

3102
02:06:16,709 --> 02:06:15,040
right

3103
02:06:18,950 --> 02:06:16,719
do you think that there is a base out

3104
02:06:21,109 --> 02:06:18,960
there and they're just

3105
02:06:24,390 --> 02:06:21,119
stationed at that base i don't know if

3106
02:06:27,189 --> 02:06:24,400
that's related this one

3107
02:06:29,990 --> 02:06:27,199
oh i would i want to say it's

3108
02:06:33,589 --> 02:06:30,000
you know 200 or 300 miles from the

3109
02:06:36,229 --> 02:06:34,470
uh

3110
02:06:38,310 --> 02:06:36,239
i don't know if that's related i kind of

3111
02:06:40,709 --> 02:06:38,320
think not right because it's been

3112
02:06:42,550 --> 02:06:40,719
generations at the same location right

3113
02:06:45,910 --> 02:06:42,560
right right well that's a fascinating

3114
02:06:48,629 --> 02:06:45,920
case um is oklahoma uh

3115
02:06:49,589 --> 02:06:48,639
or kansas i should say i i said oklahoma

3116
02:06:52,229 --> 02:06:49,599
my bad

3117
02:06:55,189 --> 02:06:52,239
um are they seeing the same increase in

3118
02:06:57,350 --> 02:06:55,199
sightings that you know the same ratio

3119
02:07:00,629 --> 02:06:57,360
as missouri

3120
02:07:03,589 --> 02:07:00,639
well since i since i'm not a mufon

3121
02:07:05,669 --> 02:07:03,599
assigned to kansas only to missouri i

3122
02:07:06,790 --> 02:07:05,679
don't look unless i look on their site

3123
02:07:09,669 --> 02:07:06,800
and i looked

3124
02:07:11,350 --> 02:07:09,679
um today on some of the

3125
02:07:13,669 --> 02:07:11,360
on the mufon site

3126
02:07:16,629 --> 02:07:13,679
and they do seem to have an increase in

3127
02:07:18,229 --> 02:07:16,639
sightings out it used to be

3128
02:07:19,990 --> 02:07:18,239
now they would be lucky to get one a

3129
02:07:24,390 --> 02:07:20,000
month

3130
02:07:27,350 --> 02:07:24,400
seems to me like that's increasing

3131
02:07:30,310 --> 02:07:27,360
what's going to happen next um is it can

3132
02:07:32,629 --> 02:07:30,320
i get you to hang on for overtime i know

3133
02:07:34,870 --> 02:07:32,639
it's late out there can you can you know

3134
02:07:37,109 --> 02:07:34,880
yeah i mean this is you're the boss this

3135
02:07:38,870 --> 02:07:37,119
is your network i mean

3136
02:07:41,510 --> 02:07:38,880
you're the shot caller what's going to

3137
02:07:43,430 --> 02:07:41,520
go on with the springfield case with

3138
02:07:46,709 --> 02:07:43,440
johnson the electrician what's the next

3139
02:07:53,270 --> 02:07:49,830
perhaps some different types of video

3140
02:07:55,030 --> 02:07:53,280
and photo analysis

3141
02:07:55,830 --> 02:07:55,040
would be the only thing that i can think

3142
02:07:58,550 --> 02:07:55,840
of

3143
02:08:00,870 --> 02:07:58,560
at the moment i think we've exhausted

3144
02:08:02,709 --> 02:08:00,880
all of our avenues as to figuring out

3145
02:08:04,390 --> 02:08:02,719
what was in the air

3146
02:08:06,470 --> 02:08:04,400
at that time

3147
02:08:08,149 --> 02:08:06,480
and what it isn't

3148
02:08:10,629 --> 02:08:08,159
uh unless somebody comes up with

3149
02:08:12,390 --> 02:08:10,639
something new about what it might be i

3150
02:08:14,470 --> 02:08:12,400
don't know what it what it possibly

3151
02:08:17,589 --> 02:08:14,480
could be do you think i can and then

3152
02:08:19,669 --> 02:08:17,599
other cases like it i i got on the move

3153
02:08:23,270 --> 02:08:19,679
on site today and i found

3154
02:08:26,310 --> 02:08:23,280
about nine other cases of cube like

3155
02:08:31,030 --> 02:08:26,320
objects that are spinning

3156
02:08:33,430 --> 02:08:31,040
and oh this is since uh 2020 until now

3157
02:08:36,870 --> 02:08:33,440
so if we get some more cases with better

3158
02:08:39,030 --> 02:08:36,880
video that will possibly give us some

3159
02:08:41,189 --> 02:08:39,040
answers yeah it's an incredible video

3160
02:08:42,950 --> 02:08:41,199
incredible do you think um uh there's a

3161
02:08:44,390 --> 02:08:42,960
chance i could get him on the show for a

3162
02:08:47,510 --> 02:08:44,400
brief moment

3163
02:08:49,589 --> 02:08:47,520
oh i think so sure i would love to talk

3164
02:08:51,750 --> 02:08:49,599
he went public so yeah

3165
02:08:52,790 --> 02:08:51,760
yeah he's kind of out now

3166
02:08:54,709 --> 02:08:52,800
so

3167
02:08:56,470 --> 02:08:54,719
um but that's uh

3168
02:08:57,510 --> 02:08:56,480
the video

3169
02:08:58,870 --> 02:08:57,520
um

3170
02:09:00,790 --> 02:08:58,880
when we're talking about that kind of

3171
02:09:03,189 --> 02:09:00,800
distance and that kind of you know the

3172
02:09:04,470 --> 02:09:03,199
size of the object and the motion in the

3173
02:09:05,430 --> 02:09:04,480
video

3174
02:09:08,870 --> 02:09:05,440
um

3175
02:09:10,950 --> 02:09:08,880
this is this is something of note

3176
02:09:13,270 --> 02:09:10,960
i i think that uh we need to take a

3177
02:09:15,910 --> 02:09:13,280
pause and and and take a look at this

3178
02:09:18,790 --> 02:09:15,920
and really analyze what is going on

3179
02:09:21,270 --> 02:09:18,800
videos of that caliber they don't happen

3180
02:09:23,910 --> 02:09:21,280
that often

3181
02:09:24,950 --> 02:09:23,920
no they they sure don't and that's been

3182
02:09:26,709 --> 02:09:24,960
that's when

3183
02:09:28,390 --> 02:09:26,719
probably the thing that

3184
02:09:30,950 --> 02:09:28,400
investigators

3185
02:09:32,629 --> 02:09:30,960
just hate the most is not having really

3186
02:09:34,950 --> 02:09:32,639
good quality video

3187
02:09:36,870 --> 02:09:34,960
and let me just mention this

3188
02:09:38,870 --> 02:09:36,880
if you're out and you the only thing you

3189
02:09:40,310 --> 02:09:38,880
have is a cell phone and the new cell

3190
02:09:44,470 --> 02:09:40,320
phones are great

3191
02:09:46,550 --> 02:09:44,480
turn it sideways please turn it sideways

3192
02:09:48,390 --> 02:09:46,560
and then try to get something else for a

3193
02:09:50,310 --> 02:09:48,400
frame of reference like a house or a

3194
02:09:52,950 --> 02:09:50,320
tree or something you know if it's at

3195
02:09:55,589 --> 02:09:52,960
all possible along with that ufo and

3196
02:09:58,069 --> 02:09:55,599
hold it very very still

3197
02:10:00,870 --> 02:09:58,079
and don't stop videotaping until the

3198
02:10:01,750 --> 02:10:00,880
thing is gone okay that will help us a

3199
02:10:04,629 --> 02:10:01,760
lot

3200
02:10:07,270 --> 02:10:04,639
i i can't i can't stress enough

3201
02:10:08,950 --> 02:10:07,280
sometimes we and i'm a victim of this we

3202
02:10:11,750 --> 02:10:08,960
get caught up in the moment

3203
02:10:13,910 --> 02:10:11,760
right and you just want to absorb what

3204
02:10:14,790 --> 02:10:13,920
is happening and you don't even think

3205
02:10:16,229 --> 02:10:14,800
about

3206
02:10:17,910 --> 02:10:16,239
your cell phone

3207
02:10:21,189 --> 02:10:17,920
i've done it i've done it myself i've

3208
02:10:23,589 --> 02:10:21,199
done it i i did it recently and and i'm

3209
02:10:25,830 --> 02:10:23,599
just kicking myself and then when i got

3210
02:10:29,669 --> 02:10:25,840
the phone ready

3211
02:10:32,870 --> 02:10:29,679
nothing happened it was like oh man

3212
02:10:37,189 --> 02:10:32,880
i can't believe i am exactly who i

3213
02:10:39,189 --> 02:10:37,199
interview now did you get a video no

3214
02:10:41,589 --> 02:10:39,199
i'm gonna send you my book the fast

3215
02:10:43,830 --> 02:10:41,599
movers and you'll see a technique in

3216
02:10:45,830 --> 02:10:43,840
there for calling them in and then

3217
02:10:47,990 --> 02:10:45,840
taking video so you can play in it ahead

3218
02:10:49,750 --> 02:10:48,000
of time okay there you go all right

3219
02:10:50,950 --> 02:10:49,760
we're going to head into overtime

3220
02:10:53,030 --> 02:10:50,960
there's no way i'm letting this

3221
02:10:55,109 --> 02:10:53,040
conversation end right now this is fade

3222
02:10:57,109 --> 02:10:55,119
to black our guest tonight margie k

3223
02:10:59,510 --> 02:10:57,119
and again i want to remind everybody

3224
02:11:01,189 --> 02:10:59,520
that we will be here on thanksgiving day

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all right after thanksgiving dinner

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fader nights taking your phone calls all

3227
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night long i'm your host jimmy church

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this is fade to black and the game

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changer and unaxed network stay with us

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welcome back fade to black i am your

3308
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host jimmy church i guess tonight margie

3309
02:15:46,790 --> 02:15:45,199
k overtime

3310
02:15:51,270 --> 02:15:46,800
there was no way

3311
02:15:54,229 --> 02:15:51,280
i was letting margie get out of here

3312
02:15:57,030 --> 02:15:54,239
overtime and uh margie with overtime i'd

3313
02:15:58,390 --> 02:15:57,040
like to loosen up a little bit and uh

3314
02:16:01,030 --> 02:15:58,400
and and have some fun with the

3315
02:16:02,870 --> 02:16:01,040
conversation but i wanted

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what's it like to hear your commercial

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play

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02:16:09,510 --> 02:16:07,280
yeah it's the coolest thing

3319
02:16:13,589 --> 02:16:09,520
pretty cool isn't it

3320
02:16:15,189 --> 02:16:13,599
me it's nails on a chalkboard but uh uh

3321
02:16:16,550 --> 02:16:15,199
it's pretty cool it's pretty cool i was

3322
02:16:18,069 --> 02:16:16,560
listening to that i thought i wonder if

3323
02:16:20,870 --> 02:16:18,079
marty's

3324
02:16:22,790 --> 02:16:20,880
listening to her own commercial um i

3325
02:16:25,430 --> 02:16:22,800
wanted to uh

3326
02:16:27,830 --> 02:16:25,440
uh pick your brain on the current

3327
02:16:29,109 --> 02:16:27,840
climate of of disclosure and what is

3328
02:16:29,990 --> 02:16:29,119
going on

3329
02:16:35,669 --> 02:16:30,000
and

3330
02:16:36,709 --> 02:16:35,679
been so much you know it's like daily

3331
02:16:38,950 --> 02:16:36,719
now

3332
02:16:40,549 --> 02:16:38,960
um and most of it coming out of

3333
02:16:43,589 --> 02:16:40,559
washington dc

3334
02:16:46,950 --> 02:16:43,599
and we've got gillibrand and uh marco

3335
02:16:50,309 --> 02:16:46,960
rubio with this legislation

3336
02:16:51,509 --> 02:16:50,319
about forming astro uh this this new

3337
02:16:52,389 --> 02:16:51,519
group

3338
02:16:53,509 --> 02:16:52,399
um

3339
02:16:55,589 --> 02:16:53,519
is this

3340
02:16:58,230 --> 02:16:55,599
you've been at this for a long time

3341
02:17:00,389 --> 02:16:58,240
is this vindication for you or is it

3342
02:17:03,270 --> 02:17:00,399
something else

3343
02:17:04,150 --> 02:17:03,280
that's a little bit of vindication

3344
02:17:06,790 --> 02:17:04,160
but

3345
02:17:10,389 --> 02:17:06,800
they actually have been feeding things

3346
02:17:11,270 --> 02:17:10,399
to us very very slowly over the years

3347
02:17:14,950 --> 02:17:11,280
and

3348
02:17:16,629 --> 02:17:14,960
i i don't ever expect say a president of

3349
02:17:18,629 --> 02:17:16,639
the united states to get

3350
02:17:21,910 --> 02:17:18,639
on on the podium

3351
02:17:23,910 --> 02:17:21,920
and a press conference and say oh yeah

3352
02:17:26,070 --> 02:17:23,920
we've known that ufos have been around

3353
02:17:29,030 --> 02:17:26,080
for 70 years and we've been in contact

3354
02:17:31,589 --> 02:17:29,040
with ets and you know tell us the whole

3355
02:17:33,589 --> 02:17:31,599
story that's just not going to happen

3356
02:17:35,190 --> 02:17:33,599
i i think they're doing their disclosure

3357
02:17:36,070 --> 02:17:35,200
in in other ways

3358
02:17:43,830 --> 02:17:36,080
so

3359
02:17:47,030 --> 02:17:43,840
and and congressmen

3360
02:17:49,349 --> 02:17:47,040
and people uh

3361
02:17:51,509 --> 02:17:49,359
get get a get something together where

3362
02:17:53,509 --> 02:17:51,519
there's gonna be a new task force i mean

3363
02:17:56,150 --> 02:17:53,519
how many how many

3364
02:17:58,230 --> 02:17:56,160
organizations uh you know project blue

3365
02:18:00,230 --> 02:17:58,240
book and then supposedly it's closed

3366
02:18:02,469 --> 02:18:00,240
down well it wasn't

3367
02:18:04,150 --> 02:18:02,479
uh you know you think you know everybody

3368
02:18:05,589 --> 02:18:04,160
knows there have been secret operations

3369
02:18:08,629 --> 02:18:05,599
going on there have been people who have

3370
02:18:12,549 --> 02:18:08,639
come out about this who have been

3371
02:18:14,309 --> 02:18:12,559
in it and in every branch of government

3372
02:18:17,509 --> 02:18:14,319
there has been some secret group

3373
02:18:19,669 --> 02:18:17,519
studying the ufo phenomena and back in

3374
02:18:21,669 --> 02:18:19,679
engineering things and making them crash

3375
02:18:22,830 --> 02:18:21,679
so that they can get a hold of of their

3376
02:18:25,750 --> 02:18:22,840
equipment

3377
02:18:29,270 --> 02:18:25,760
uh i just don't think that all of that

3378
02:18:36,309 --> 02:18:31,349
do you think that

3379
02:18:37,990 --> 02:18:36,319
for a huge chunk of contactees and

3380
02:18:40,790 --> 02:18:38,000
witnesses

3381
02:18:41,669 --> 02:18:40,800
that they do need

3382
02:18:43,830 --> 02:18:41,679
uh

3383
02:18:46,389 --> 02:18:43,840
the president to step up and make an

3384
02:18:48,950 --> 02:18:46,399
announcement you know for them their

3385
02:18:50,549 --> 02:18:48,960
families and everything else

3386
02:18:56,549 --> 02:18:50,559
that

3387
02:18:57,750 --> 02:18:56,559
no i i don't because i talked to so many

3388
02:18:59,830 --> 02:18:57,760
of them

3389
02:19:02,709 --> 02:18:59,840
they they

3390
02:19:04,230 --> 02:19:02,719
they tell me i don't care if anybody

3391
02:19:06,629 --> 02:19:04,240
believes me or not

3392
02:19:08,709 --> 02:19:06,639
i i know what happened to me

3393
02:19:10,469 --> 02:19:08,719
and this is real

3394
02:19:12,150 --> 02:19:10,479
the people who want

3395
02:19:14,150 --> 02:19:12,160
the proof

3396
02:19:16,870 --> 02:19:14,160
are the skeptics and the people who have

3397
02:19:18,830 --> 02:19:16,880
never had an experience themselves

3398
02:19:21,750 --> 02:19:18,840
until they actually see something

3399
02:19:23,429 --> 02:19:21,760
themselves they're not going

3400
02:19:25,509 --> 02:19:23,439
they're not going to believe it because

3401
02:19:27,509 --> 02:19:25,519
they don't want to believe it

3402
02:19:29,830 --> 02:19:27,519
and now a few of those like i said

3403
02:19:31,190 --> 02:19:29,840
earlier they have had experiences but

3404
02:19:32,549 --> 02:19:31,200
they've blocked it out and they don't

3405
02:19:34,790 --> 02:19:32,559
remember and then

3406
02:19:37,110 --> 02:19:34,800
sometime later something might trigger a

3407
02:19:38,389 --> 02:19:37,120
memory i've talked to a number of people

3408
02:19:39,830 --> 02:19:38,399
that that's happened to where they

3409
02:19:41,509 --> 02:19:39,840
thought they've gone their whole life

3410
02:19:43,349 --> 02:19:41,519
they never believed in it because they

3411
02:19:45,030 --> 02:19:43,359
never had an experience but then

3412
02:19:48,630 --> 02:19:45,040
something triggered a memory and they're

3413
02:19:51,030 --> 02:19:48,640
like oh my gosh i remember when i was 15

3414
02:19:53,830 --> 02:19:51,040
years old that this thing happened and i

3415
02:19:55,590 --> 02:19:53,840
saw ufo and i saw et's what

3416
02:19:57,590 --> 02:19:55,600
where did that memory come from what the

3417
02:19:59,590 --> 02:19:57,600
heck and then they go ask their family

3418
02:20:01,190 --> 02:19:59,600
about it and they say yeah i think

3419
02:20:02,870 --> 02:20:01,200
something did happen around that time

3420
02:20:04,469 --> 02:20:02,880
where you said you saw something but we

3421
02:20:06,389 --> 02:20:04,479
didn't believe you

3422
02:20:11,510 --> 02:20:06,399
and so then they blocked it

3423
02:20:13,590 --> 02:20:11,520
i i i often wonder uh that the elected

3424
02:20:16,950 --> 02:20:13,600
members of

3425
02:20:18,950 --> 02:20:16,960
capitol hill right for every senate

3426
02:20:21,349 --> 02:20:18,960
congress what have you

3427
02:20:22,790 --> 02:20:21,359
house of representatives that they're

3428
02:20:25,830 --> 02:20:22,800
just like us

3429
02:20:27,590 --> 02:20:25,840
and what's the percentage of them that

3430
02:20:28,950 --> 02:20:27,600
have seen something strange in the sky

3431
02:20:30,710 --> 02:20:28,960
but they won't talk about it because

3432
02:20:33,590 --> 02:20:30,720
they're in public office

3433
02:20:35,429 --> 02:20:33,600
is this an opportunity now that this

3434
02:20:37,110 --> 02:20:35,439
conversation is out

3435
02:20:39,429 --> 02:20:37,120
for some of them to start stepping

3436
02:20:41,270 --> 02:20:39,439
forward saying hey i've i've

3437
02:20:42,230 --> 02:20:41,280
i saw something

3438
02:20:46,630 --> 02:20:42,240
and

3439
02:20:49,590 --> 02:20:46,640
do you think we're at that point

3440
02:20:50,309 --> 02:20:49,600
go back to was it dennis kucinich

3441
02:20:53,429 --> 02:20:50,319
right

3442
02:20:56,550 --> 02:20:53,439
blue is he blew his presidential race by

3443
02:20:58,389 --> 02:20:56,560
bringing this up at a debate

3444
02:20:59,990 --> 02:20:58,399
well we've had presidents bring it up

3445
02:21:02,230 --> 02:21:00,000
okay the president said they had

3446
02:21:04,309 --> 02:21:02,240
sightings and then oh when i'm president

3447
02:21:05,830 --> 02:21:04,319
i'm going to look into this and then you

3448
02:21:06,870 --> 02:21:05,840
know they're shut down

3449
02:21:08,710 --> 02:21:06,880
because

3450
02:21:10,469 --> 02:21:08,720
this is on a need to know basis and the

3451
02:21:12,150 --> 02:21:10,479
presidents don't need to know they're

3452
02:21:13,910 --> 02:21:12,160
fleeting they're in and out they're not

3453
02:21:15,590 --> 02:21:13,920
permanent

3454
02:21:17,990 --> 02:21:15,600
in washington

3455
02:21:19,750 --> 02:21:18,000
well some people are permanent but right

3456
02:21:21,670 --> 02:21:19,760
uh you know

3457
02:21:23,510 --> 02:21:21,680
but they're not as the president and

3458
02:21:25,590 --> 02:21:23,520
they apparently the president does not

3459
02:21:28,950 --> 02:21:25,600
have the power to

3460
02:21:31,110 --> 02:21:28,960
any and if he does have the power or she

3461
02:21:32,469 --> 02:21:31,120
um

3462
02:21:33,830 --> 02:21:32,479
who's to say that they're not going to

3463
02:21:38,230 --> 02:21:33,840
find out something

3464
02:21:40,389 --> 02:21:38,240
that that they agree they cannot reveal

3465
02:21:42,230 --> 02:21:40,399
you know for national security or for

3466
02:21:43,429 --> 02:21:42,240
for just to keep people out of a state

3467
02:21:47,349 --> 02:21:43,439
of panic

3468
02:21:49,990 --> 02:21:47,359
right right right now um and and

3469
02:21:52,950 --> 02:21:50,000
and taking things a step further

3470
02:21:54,790 --> 02:21:52,960
when uh the uap task force report was

3471
02:21:56,309 --> 02:21:54,800
released back on june 25th and i know

3472
02:21:58,469 --> 02:21:56,319
that you were chomping at the bit to

3473
02:22:01,590 --> 02:21:58,479
read that like the rest of us were

3474
02:22:02,630 --> 02:22:01,600
and and we go and we read it

3475
02:22:05,830 --> 02:22:02,640
and

3476
02:22:07,910 --> 02:22:05,840
the statements in the report

3477
02:22:10,389 --> 02:22:07,920
in a nutshell right to paraphrase

3478
02:22:12,389 --> 02:22:10,399
everything is we we don't know anything

3479
02:22:15,110 --> 02:22:12,399
right the only thing that we can say is

3480
02:22:19,429 --> 02:22:15,120
it's not us

3481
02:22:25,190 --> 02:22:22,710
well i think that is being truthful

3482
02:22:26,230 --> 02:22:25,200
to a certain extent because there are

3483
02:22:27,910 --> 02:22:26,240
different

3484
02:22:30,230 --> 02:22:27,920
uh

3485
02:22:32,710 --> 02:22:30,240
different departments within

3486
02:22:35,429 --> 02:22:32,720
the different branches of military some

3487
02:22:38,070 --> 02:22:35,439
know much more than others right

3488
02:22:41,030 --> 02:22:38,080
now there's probably a black ops program

3489
02:22:43,110 --> 02:22:41,040
that's deep deep dark secret

3490
02:22:44,630 --> 02:22:43,120
that nobody knows about

3491
02:22:46,550 --> 02:22:44,640
but it exists

3492
02:22:48,630 --> 02:22:46,560
and those are the ones who are actually

3493
02:22:51,510 --> 02:22:48,640
having contact with

3494
02:22:53,990 --> 02:22:51,520
the et's and working with them

3495
02:22:56,550 --> 02:22:54,000
yeah that would make sense uh

3496
02:22:58,630 --> 02:22:56,560
i just had a clarity moment that would

3497
02:23:00,790 --> 02:22:58,640
make a lot of sense in that those that

3498
02:23:01,750 --> 02:23:00,800
drafted the report

3499
02:23:04,630 --> 02:23:01,760
uh

3500
02:23:07,429 --> 02:23:04,640
didn't have access to

3501
02:23:08,550 --> 02:23:07,439
to information so to them they know

3502
02:23:11,030 --> 02:23:08,560
nothing

3503
02:23:14,309 --> 02:23:11,040
right and those that do know are not

3504
02:23:16,389 --> 02:23:14,319
reporting back to those that were

3505
02:23:18,309 --> 02:23:16,399
uh getting this report ready for the

3506
02:23:22,550 --> 02:23:18,319
senate

3507
02:23:26,309 --> 02:23:22,560
exactly yeah that's that's my take on it

3508
02:23:27,830 --> 02:23:26,319
so and the other part is the government

3509
02:23:30,469 --> 02:23:27,840
and i know i've made a lot of public

3510
02:23:33,349 --> 02:23:30,479
statements uh about this

3511
02:23:35,830 --> 02:23:33,359
but is the government suddenly the dod

3512
02:23:38,309 --> 02:23:35,840
the dia in washington dc

3513
02:23:40,070 --> 02:23:38,319
are they suddenly the ufo community's

3514
02:23:42,150 --> 02:23:40,080
friend

3515
02:23:44,469 --> 02:23:42,160
right or or do we need to be a little

3516
02:23:46,790 --> 02:23:44,479
bit cautious about what's happening

3517
02:23:48,950 --> 02:23:46,800
no i don't think they're our friend

3518
02:23:51,349 --> 02:23:48,960
uh just as an example

3519
02:23:53,030 --> 02:23:51,359
here at our mufon meetings we have in

3520
02:23:56,150 --> 02:23:53,040
kansas city

3521
02:24:00,550 --> 02:23:58,389
probably from the fbi but definitely

3522
02:24:02,630 --> 02:24:00,560
government agents come to almost every

3523
02:24:04,950 --> 02:24:02,640
single one of our meetings and have been

3524
02:24:07,110 --> 02:24:04,960
for many years

3525
02:24:09,190 --> 02:24:07,120
and they do the same routine they sit in

3526
02:24:12,150 --> 02:24:09,200
the back they don't sign in they don't

3527
02:24:14,150 --> 02:24:12,160
talk to anybody they sit and take notes

3528
02:24:15,429 --> 02:24:14,160
they wear a suit they come in late they

3529
02:24:18,070 --> 02:24:15,439
leave early

3530
02:24:20,950 --> 02:24:18,080
so there's no interaction with people

3531
02:24:22,550 --> 02:24:20,960
but we've also had uh had a very strange

3532
02:24:25,429 --> 02:24:22,560
thing happen once or three of them

3533
02:24:26,550 --> 02:24:25,439
started coming to events

3534
02:24:29,110 --> 02:24:26,560
and

3535
02:24:30,230 --> 02:24:29,120
one evening i had a particular speaker

3536
02:24:33,270 --> 02:24:30,240
come in

3537
02:24:35,750 --> 02:24:33,280
and she was talking about a big case

3538
02:24:38,630 --> 02:24:35,760
and the three of them

3539
02:24:42,710 --> 02:24:38,640
just got up and literally ran out of the

3540
02:24:43,910 --> 02:24:42,720
room after she said a particular thing

3541
02:24:50,950 --> 02:24:43,920
and

3542
02:24:53,910 --> 02:24:50,960
superiors what was going on but they're

3543
02:24:56,389 --> 02:24:53,920
so darned obvious and the thing is you

3544
02:24:57,670 --> 02:24:56,399
know we're we're investigating

3545
02:24:59,590 --> 02:24:57,680
but

3546
02:25:02,550 --> 02:24:59,600
we don't know any more than they do they

3547
02:25:05,830 --> 02:25:02,560
probably know more than we do about it

3548
02:25:09,030 --> 02:25:05,840
now i wouldn't be doing my job uh if i

3549
02:25:10,469 --> 02:25:09,040
didn't say what was said

3550
02:25:11,510 --> 02:25:10,479
i can't say

3551
02:25:14,790 --> 02:25:11,520
well it was

3552
02:25:15,670 --> 02:25:14,800
but isn't it a public meeting mufon

3553
02:25:19,190 --> 02:25:15,680
it

3554
02:25:21,270 --> 02:25:19,200
and

3555
02:25:22,870 --> 02:25:21,280
we decided after that that we were going

3556
02:25:25,190 --> 02:25:22,880
to shut down talking about that

3557
02:25:27,110 --> 02:25:25,200
particular case to to protect the

3558
02:25:29,670 --> 02:25:27,120
witness and other because there's

3559
02:25:32,790 --> 02:25:29,680
multiple witnesses involved

3560
02:25:36,230 --> 02:25:32,800
and it's it's it's a huge case

3561
02:25:38,710 --> 02:25:36,240
okay so at that moment

3562
02:25:39,750 --> 02:25:38,720
i'm going to get it out of you you watch

3563
02:25:40,950 --> 02:25:39,760
you watch

3564
02:25:43,830 --> 02:25:40,960
not on the air

3565
02:25:44,710 --> 02:25:43,840
just just watch it watch how i do this

3566
02:25:45,510 --> 02:25:44,720
um

3567
02:25:46,309 --> 02:25:45,520
but

3568
02:25:51,110 --> 02:25:46,319
what

3569
02:25:53,429 --> 02:25:51,120
referencing at that moment was it a

3570
02:25:56,630 --> 02:25:53,439
government detail

3571
02:25:59,429 --> 02:25:56,640
was it an e.t detail that would cause

3572
02:26:01,670 --> 02:25:59,439
them to react did it seem secretive to

3573
02:26:05,190 --> 02:26:03,270
it seemed like they wanted to keep a

3574
02:26:06,950 --> 02:26:05,200
secret and it seemed like the secret was

3575
02:26:10,070 --> 02:26:06,960
out of the bag

3576
02:26:13,830 --> 02:26:10,080
uh it's definitely et related

3577
02:26:16,150 --> 02:26:13,840
what and uh in a particular place

3578
02:26:17,510 --> 02:26:16,160
it was a it was about a location

3579
02:26:20,150 --> 02:26:17,520
in missouri it was

3580
02:26:21,990 --> 02:26:20,160
and i mean it's about a location and a

3581
02:26:25,110 --> 02:26:22,000
thing that happened

3582
02:26:27,590 --> 02:26:25,120
yeah so and and they thought see we

3583
02:26:30,469 --> 02:26:27,600
didn't realize the ramifications or how

3584
02:26:33,190 --> 02:26:30,479
important it was until that moment

3585
02:26:35,910 --> 02:26:33,200
until they got up and ran was it was it

3586
02:26:41,750 --> 02:26:38,469
no it was just a simple appearance there

3587
02:26:43,750 --> 02:26:41,760
were no craft involved so e.t appeared

3588
02:26:47,990 --> 02:26:43,760
in missouri yeah

3589
02:26:50,630 --> 02:26:48,000
yeah and she made contact with et

3590
02:26:53,510 --> 02:26:50,640
yes and uh

3591
02:26:55,990 --> 02:26:53,520
video pictures

3592
02:26:57,910 --> 02:26:56,000
there is there is some video

3593
02:27:00,070 --> 02:26:57,920
but it's not going to be released okay

3594
02:27:03,750 --> 02:27:00,080
so but all of this was spoken about at

3595
02:27:04,550 --> 02:27:03,760
that moment so so these three agents

3596
02:27:09,030 --> 02:27:04,560
knew

3597
02:27:10,550 --> 02:27:09,040
that uh how many ets were there

3598
02:27:18,710 --> 02:27:10,560
i

3599
02:27:19,750 --> 02:27:18,720
three agents

3600
02:27:20,550 --> 02:27:19,760
uh

3601
02:27:23,510 --> 02:27:20,560
knew

3602
02:27:25,670 --> 02:27:23,520
that this happened and she confirmed it

3603
02:27:28,389 --> 02:27:25,680
and they probably had to dash out and

3604
02:27:30,230 --> 02:27:28,399
say yes that event actually happened

3605
02:27:32,550 --> 02:27:30,240
yeah i mean obviously they were keeping

3606
02:27:33,270 --> 02:27:32,560
tabs on this case and we found out since

3607
02:27:34,950 --> 02:27:33,280
that

3608
02:27:37,510 --> 02:27:34,960
this is an ongoing case it hasn't

3609
02:27:39,670 --> 02:27:37,520
stopped right since then it's been going

3610
02:27:40,870 --> 02:27:39,680
on for uh four years

3611
02:27:41,750 --> 02:27:40,880
four years

3612
02:27:43,349 --> 02:27:41,760
yes

3613
02:27:45,030 --> 02:27:43,359
and um

3614
02:27:47,349 --> 02:27:45,040
so

3615
02:27:49,910 --> 02:27:47,359
at one point

3616
02:27:52,550 --> 02:27:49,920
uh we put the uh

3617
02:27:55,190 --> 02:27:52,560
stop on any discussion about it and here

3618
02:27:57,429 --> 02:27:55,200
i am talking about it but i just wanted

3619
02:27:59,990 --> 02:27:57,439
to give that example

3620
02:28:01,670 --> 02:28:00,000
that the government is watching the

3621
02:28:03,910 --> 02:28:01,680
things that we do

3622
02:28:07,190 --> 02:28:03,920
and we know it

3623
02:28:10,870 --> 02:28:09,270
i just don't see how we know any more

3624
02:28:12,710 --> 02:28:10,880
than they do

3625
02:28:13,590 --> 02:28:12,720
as investigators because they can go

3626
02:28:16,550 --> 02:28:13,600
into

3627
02:28:18,550 --> 02:28:16,560
for instance the mufon website

3628
02:28:19,750 --> 02:28:18,560
and look at this stuff all the time all

3629
02:28:22,070 --> 02:28:19,760
day long

3630
02:28:23,990 --> 02:28:22,080
to see these case files but yet they

3631
02:28:25,030 --> 02:28:24,000
still come to our meetings and tap our

3632
02:28:28,150 --> 02:28:25,040
phones

3633
02:28:29,510 --> 02:28:28,160
right and um see i got all the details

3634
02:28:31,750 --> 02:28:29,520
out of you

3635
02:28:33,270 --> 02:28:31,760
yeah that was pretty good yeah you're

3636
02:28:35,429 --> 02:28:33,280
pretty sneaky yeah i'm pretty sneaky

3637
02:28:36,630 --> 02:28:35,439
about that that was and and how long

3638
02:28:38,830 --> 02:28:36,640
have you

3639
02:28:42,230 --> 02:28:38,840
i'm gonna get

3640
02:28:43,990 --> 02:28:42,240
fired um uh how long have you been with

3641
02:28:46,790 --> 02:28:44,000
mufon

3642
02:28:48,630 --> 02:28:46,800
since 96 96.

3643
02:28:49,349 --> 02:28:48,640
and uh

3644
02:28:53,270 --> 02:28:49,359
the

3645
02:28:55,990 --> 02:28:53,280
recent uh showtime jj abrams uh

3646
02:28:57,990 --> 02:28:56,000
four-part documentary called ufo

3647
02:29:01,830 --> 02:28:58,000
uh aired

3648
02:29:04,950 --> 02:29:01,840
and um in episode three there was

3649
02:29:07,750 --> 02:29:04,960
a pretty strong emphasis on

3650
02:29:11,750 --> 02:29:07,760
on what was going on with bigelow

3651
02:29:17,190 --> 02:29:11,760
the funding the transfer of data and

3652
02:29:19,590 --> 02:29:17,200
taking a a private citizen driven ufo

3653
02:29:22,389 --> 02:29:19,600
investigation community

3654
02:29:25,270 --> 02:29:22,399
and taking that data and possibly having

3655
02:29:28,389 --> 02:29:25,280
transfer over to bigelow and then who

3656
02:29:31,670 --> 02:29:28,399
knows what goes on uh from there maybe

3657
02:29:33,270 --> 02:29:31,680
to the cia to the department of defense

3658
02:29:37,670 --> 02:29:33,280
and

3659
02:29:39,750 --> 02:29:37,680
having it discussed

3660
02:29:41,910 --> 02:29:39,760
like that firsthand in this documentary

3661
02:29:44,150 --> 02:29:41,920
was an eye-opener

3662
02:29:45,830 --> 02:29:44,160
what did you make of that you know you

3663
02:29:46,950 --> 02:29:45,840
know the database you work with the

3664
02:29:49,270 --> 02:29:46,960
database

3665
02:29:51,429 --> 02:29:49,280
and to have this this private

3666
02:29:55,030 --> 02:29:51,439
information from

3667
02:29:57,429 --> 02:29:55,040
uh witnesses and and that documentation

3668
02:29:59,429 --> 02:29:57,439
having that data move around how did

3669
02:30:00,950 --> 02:29:59,439
that make you feel yeah and i didn't

3670
02:30:03,030 --> 02:30:00,960
like that at all

3671
02:30:05,110 --> 02:30:03,040
uh it is

3672
02:30:07,510 --> 02:30:05,120
always has been my understanding that

3673
02:30:08,950 --> 02:30:07,520
everything is confidential and would

3674
02:30:11,110 --> 02:30:08,960
only be

3675
02:30:12,950 --> 02:30:11,120
seen by other investigators

3676
02:30:15,110 --> 02:30:12,960
and

3677
02:30:17,270 --> 02:30:15,120
that whole thing i i think a lot of

3678
02:30:19,670 --> 02:30:17,280
people in mufon

3679
02:30:20,790 --> 02:30:19,680
weren't aware of it and also didn't

3680
02:30:22,150 --> 02:30:20,800
approve

3681
02:30:24,710 --> 02:30:22,160
of it

3682
02:30:27,190 --> 02:30:24,720
this was something that occurred under

3683
02:30:31,349 --> 02:30:27,200
you know former leadership that i would

3684
02:30:32,389 --> 02:30:31,359
not occur now i can assure you of that

3685
02:30:34,710 --> 02:30:32,399
but

3686
02:30:37,190 --> 02:30:34,720
that being said if the government wants

3687
02:30:39,910 --> 02:30:37,200
to get its hands on something they have

3688
02:30:41,190 --> 02:30:39,920
ways of doing that

3689
02:30:42,950 --> 02:30:41,200
and

3690
02:30:44,550 --> 02:30:42,960
rather than going through someone like

3691
02:30:46,630 --> 02:30:44,560
bigelow

3692
02:30:51,510 --> 02:30:46,640
to get it

3693
02:30:53,510 --> 02:30:51,520
and i will also say that very very

3694
02:30:56,950 --> 02:30:53,520
few if any

3695
02:30:58,790 --> 02:30:56,960
of the witnesses that i have spoken with

3696
02:31:00,870 --> 02:30:58,800
have actually had a visitation from

3697
02:31:02,710 --> 02:31:00,880
anybody in the government

3698
02:31:05,349 --> 02:31:02,720
they kind of quit that

3699
02:31:06,950 --> 02:31:05,359
clandestine stuff

3700
02:31:08,389 --> 02:31:06,960
uh years ago

3701
02:31:10,469 --> 02:31:08,399
with actually talking to someone saying

3702
02:31:11,990 --> 02:31:10,479
oh you don't you didn't see that no

3703
02:31:13,270 --> 02:31:12,000
there's so many of them now they don't

3704
02:31:15,190 --> 02:31:13,280
care

3705
02:31:16,630 --> 02:31:15,200
and and it's come out more in the public

3706
02:31:18,469 --> 02:31:16,640
now that

3707
02:31:21,270 --> 02:31:18,479
that they don't care so much about that

3708
02:31:24,070 --> 02:31:21,280
it's only the really

3709
02:31:26,630 --> 02:31:24,080
uh i want to i want to say big case if i

3710
02:31:28,790 --> 02:31:26,640
say a big case that means

3711
02:31:30,550 --> 02:31:28,800
there's a lot of evidence there's maybe

3712
02:31:32,790 --> 02:31:30,560
multiple witnesses

3713
02:31:34,710 --> 02:31:32,800
there's some kind of residual effect

3714
02:31:37,030 --> 02:31:34,720
going on where people have been

3715
02:31:40,830 --> 02:31:37,040
physically affected by it

3716
02:31:43,349 --> 02:31:40,840
um there's and it's ongoing and doesn't

3717
02:31:46,070 --> 02:31:43,359
stop and it's in a certain area and

3718
02:31:47,910 --> 02:31:46,080
keeps coming back to that certain area

3719
02:31:49,910 --> 02:31:47,920
it's in cases like those

3720
02:31:51,910 --> 02:31:49,920
when we see government involvement

3721
02:31:54,790 --> 02:31:51,920
otherwise no

3722
02:31:58,070 --> 02:31:54,800
people don't did it surprise you

3723
02:32:00,070 --> 02:31:58,080
um i had heard the numbers thrown around

3724
02:32:01,429 --> 02:32:00,080
uh over the years but

3725
02:32:02,790 --> 02:32:01,439
to hear

3726
02:32:06,070 --> 02:32:02,800
uh

3727
02:32:07,830 --> 02:32:06,080
about this this money that was going to

3728
02:32:11,030 --> 02:32:07,840
be put into mufon

3729
02:32:13,190 --> 02:32:11,040
i thought it was shockingly low

3730
02:32:14,950 --> 02:32:13,200
you know it wasn't millions of dollars

3731
02:32:15,990 --> 02:32:14,960
right it was tens of thousands of

3732
02:32:18,630 --> 02:32:16,000
dollars

3733
02:32:19,429 --> 02:32:18,640
to get access to

3734
02:32:22,630 --> 02:32:19,439
uh

3735
02:32:25,110 --> 02:32:22,640
confidential anonymous mufon case files

3736
02:32:27,270 --> 02:32:25,120
from private american citizens seems

3737
02:32:31,270 --> 02:32:27,280
like to me

3738
02:32:34,710 --> 02:32:31,280
uh kind of sold out pretty cheaply i i

3739
02:32:36,550 --> 02:32:34,720
was so surprised about that

3740
02:32:40,309 --> 02:32:36,560
yeah uh

3741
02:32:41,750 --> 02:32:40,319
yeah that too and the other thing is

3742
02:32:44,309 --> 02:32:41,760
i really don't think they've done

3743
02:32:47,590 --> 02:32:44,319
anything as far as contacting

3744
02:32:49,510 --> 02:32:47,600
those witnesses there's there's so many

3745
02:32:51,190 --> 02:32:49,520
of them there's so many thousands and

3746
02:32:53,429 --> 02:32:51,200
thousands what are they going to do with

3747
02:32:54,309 --> 02:32:53,439
that information right right right right

3748
02:32:55,910 --> 02:32:54,319
i don't think they're going to do

3749
02:32:57,110 --> 02:32:55,920
anything with it

3750
02:32:59,190 --> 02:32:57,120
um

3751
02:33:02,389 --> 02:32:59,200
any you know i know that you're with

3752
02:33:05,270 --> 02:33:02,399
mufon now and some of these questions

3753
02:33:06,550 --> 02:33:05,280
are you know uh pretty sensitive

3754
02:33:09,030 --> 02:33:06,560
but

3755
02:33:11,750 --> 02:33:09,040
did that data is it

3756
02:33:14,469 --> 02:33:11,760
has it been sequel is it secure

3757
02:33:16,550 --> 02:33:14,479
right i mean did it get back returned to

3758
02:33:19,030 --> 02:33:16,560
mufon and

3759
02:33:21,270 --> 02:33:19,040
the big drive

3760
02:33:24,230 --> 02:33:21,280
i don't know i am i am

3761
02:33:26,469 --> 02:33:24,240
an assistant state director and i focus

3762
02:33:29,510 --> 02:33:26,479
on the state of missouri

3763
02:33:31,110 --> 02:33:29,520
i don't focus on uh headquarters or what

3764
02:33:33,110 --> 02:33:31,120
the board of directors is doing or what

3765
02:33:34,790 --> 02:33:33,120
the executive director is doing right

3766
02:33:36,150 --> 02:33:34,800
right um

3767
02:33:39,910 --> 02:33:36,160
my whole thing

3768
02:33:41,670 --> 02:33:39,920
this goes back uh about 10 years when i

3769
02:33:43,190 --> 02:33:41,680
started to hear about this

3770
02:33:45,190 --> 02:33:43,200
but this is what i thought this is what

3771
02:33:49,750 --> 02:33:45,200
went through my mind

3772
02:33:50,630 --> 02:33:49,760
if i reported a case to mufon which i

3773
02:33:55,190 --> 02:33:50,640
did

3774
02:33:57,590 --> 02:33:55,200
an official report

3775
02:34:00,630 --> 02:33:57,600
but i thought to myself if if my

3776
02:34:02,550 --> 02:34:00,640
information if if i would have done

3777
02:34:04,230 --> 02:34:02,560
something assuming

3778
02:34:06,070 --> 02:34:04,240
that this was going to be private and

3779
02:34:08,469 --> 02:34:06,080
now my information my personal

3780
02:34:10,630 --> 02:34:08,479
information about this sighting

3781
02:34:12,790 --> 02:34:10,640
is now

3782
02:34:16,469 --> 02:34:12,800
being passed around i'd be very

3783
02:34:17,429 --> 02:34:16,479
uncomfortable if i was a private citizen

3784
02:34:19,110 --> 02:34:17,439
yeah

3785
02:34:20,710 --> 02:34:19,120
i totally understand how you feel i

3786
02:34:22,710 --> 02:34:20,720
don't like it either

3787
02:34:25,670 --> 02:34:22,720
but on the other hand they're not

3788
02:34:29,590 --> 02:34:25,680
releasing it to the public

3789
02:34:32,309 --> 02:34:29,600
so everybody doesn't know this right

3790
02:34:35,429 --> 02:34:32,319
and i i i'm 100 certain that they're you

3791
02:34:37,910 --> 02:34:35,439
know containing it as much as possible

3792
02:34:40,150 --> 02:34:37,920
but i'm not the right person to be

3793
02:34:41,990 --> 02:34:40,160
to get the details right right because i

3794
02:34:43,990 --> 02:34:42,000
don't know yeah we can we can move on i

3795
02:34:45,910 --> 02:34:44,000
was just very curious about the

3796
02:34:48,950 --> 02:34:45,920
atmosphere since you have been with

3797
02:34:51,190 --> 02:34:48,960
mufon for so long and how the climate

3798
02:34:52,389 --> 02:34:51,200
has has changed

3799
02:34:55,270 --> 02:34:52,399
and uh

3800
02:34:59,349 --> 02:34:55,280
and i will say it's improved greatly

3801
02:35:02,070 --> 02:34:59,359
and i feel uh confident that there are

3802
02:35:05,030 --> 02:35:02,080
very professional people at the helm who

3803
02:35:06,389 --> 02:35:05,040
are serious about this and

3804
02:35:08,870 --> 02:35:06,399
and care about

3805
02:35:09,670 --> 02:35:08,880
all of us involved in mufon as well

3806
02:35:11,990 --> 02:35:09,680
yeah

3807
02:35:13,910 --> 02:35:12,000
most of the people i've you know met so

3808
02:35:16,710 --> 02:35:13,920
many people to move on

3809
02:35:18,309 --> 02:35:16,720
they are there uh not only to

3810
02:35:20,230 --> 02:35:18,319
investigate but they are there because

3811
02:35:23,030 --> 02:35:20,240
of their own personal reasons

3812
02:35:27,030 --> 02:35:23,040
right and they are trying to get to they

3813
02:35:28,550 --> 02:35:27,040
are very very serious about the quest

3814
02:35:31,590 --> 02:35:28,560
and the

3815
02:35:33,510 --> 02:35:31,600
uh the job that they are given

3816
02:35:36,230 --> 02:35:33,520
as an investigator to go out and

3817
02:35:38,230 --> 02:35:36,240
interface with others because most

3818
02:35:40,950 --> 02:35:38,240
mufon investigators and most members of

3819
02:35:43,030 --> 02:35:40,960
mufon have had contact

3820
02:35:43,990 --> 02:35:43,040
right that's why that's what sparks the

3821
02:35:46,309 --> 02:35:44,000
interest

3822
02:35:47,030 --> 02:35:46,319
to start with so they want answers so

3823
02:35:51,270 --> 02:35:47,040
they

3824
02:35:52,389 --> 02:35:51,280
investigator and

3825
02:35:54,389 --> 02:35:52,399
they start

3826
02:35:56,950 --> 02:35:54,399
interviewing witnesses

3827
02:35:59,110 --> 02:35:56,960
and they find out hey you know other

3828
02:36:01,670 --> 02:35:59,120
people are having those experiences as

3829
02:36:03,990 --> 02:36:01,680
well and that's why they want to do it i

3830
02:36:06,309 --> 02:36:04,000
guarantee you that most of the people

3831
02:36:08,550 --> 02:36:06,319
have had some type of experience and

3832
02:36:11,349 --> 02:36:08,560
that's why they became an investigator

3833
02:36:12,950 --> 02:36:11,359
and the reason why i'm i'm doing this

3834
02:36:14,950 --> 02:36:12,960
line of uh questioning in the

3835
02:36:16,070 --> 02:36:14,960
conversation is

3836
02:36:19,030 --> 02:36:16,080
the

3837
02:36:21,110 --> 02:36:19,040
conversation out of washington right now

3838
02:36:23,270 --> 02:36:21,120
throughout the department of defense

3839
02:36:26,070 --> 02:36:23,280
is military focused

3840
02:36:28,630 --> 02:36:26,080
where we have all of these witnesses and

3841
02:36:31,270 --> 02:36:28,640
contactees across this country

3842
02:36:33,990 --> 02:36:31,280
and nobody's talking to them

3843
02:36:35,830 --> 02:36:34,000
right this seems to be military driven

3844
02:36:40,309 --> 02:36:35,840
don't they

3845
02:36:43,590 --> 02:36:40,319
shouldn't they be out talking to other

3846
02:36:46,230 --> 02:36:43,600
witnesses and and contactees about this

3847
02:36:47,510 --> 02:36:46,240
phenomenon i think it's a credibility

3848
02:36:49,190 --> 02:36:47,520
factor

3849
02:36:51,670 --> 02:36:49,200
i think they would say

3850
02:36:53,510 --> 02:36:51,680
you know military and pilots in the

3851
02:36:54,550 --> 02:36:53,520
military

3852
02:36:55,750 --> 02:36:54,560
are

3853
02:36:57,429 --> 02:36:55,760
you know some of the most credible

3854
02:36:59,670 --> 02:36:57,439
people in the world

3855
02:37:01,270 --> 02:36:59,680
and i think what they what they will

3856
02:37:02,790 --> 02:37:01,280
eventually do

3857
02:37:05,750 --> 02:37:02,800
is next they're going to go to

3858
02:37:08,790 --> 02:37:05,760
commercial pilots

3859
02:37:10,630 --> 02:37:08,800
and law enforcement

3860
02:37:15,030 --> 02:37:10,640
and because there have been a lot of law

3861
02:37:20,309 --> 02:37:16,550
fire

3862
02:37:22,950 --> 02:37:20,319
i mean i've talked to several in

3863
02:37:26,309 --> 02:37:22,960
missouri for instance who have had ufo

3864
02:37:27,590 --> 02:37:26,319
experiences uh some big big cases

3865
02:37:28,950 --> 02:37:27,600
the uh

3866
02:37:31,590 --> 02:37:28,960
that's that's what they do they're gonna

3867
02:37:34,150 --> 02:37:31,600
go down the line and you know

3868
02:37:35,750 --> 02:37:34,160
it's it's credibility well you know here

3869
02:37:39,030 --> 02:37:35,760
you have uh

3870
02:37:40,230 --> 02:37:39,040
uh mr johnson the electrician right in

3871
02:37:42,950 --> 02:37:40,240
springfield

3872
02:37:44,950 --> 02:37:42,960
who's got all of

3873
02:37:47,670 --> 02:37:44,960
the same data

3874
02:37:48,870 --> 02:37:47,680
just about that that are in the tic tac

3875
02:37:51,830 --> 02:37:48,880
videos

3876
02:37:52,790 --> 02:37:51,840
right it's it's certainly uh a much

3877
02:37:53,670 --> 02:37:52,800
clearer

3878
02:37:58,070 --> 02:37:53,680
uh

3879
02:37:59,750 --> 02:37:58,080
um it's there he's an eyewitness and i

3880
02:38:01,910 --> 02:37:59,760
think that is something that should be

3881
02:38:03,750 --> 02:38:01,920
added to the pile

3882
02:38:05,349 --> 02:38:03,760
oh it definitely should be added to the

3883
02:38:07,750 --> 02:38:05,359
pile and then look at the media who

3884
02:38:11,670 --> 02:38:07,760
ignores it while the media has been told

3885
02:38:14,630 --> 02:38:11,680
to stand down on these cases

3886
02:38:16,790 --> 02:38:14,640
you know i it should be on mainstream

3887
02:38:19,110 --> 02:38:16,800
right now and there are a lot of cases

3888
02:38:21,429 --> 02:38:19,120
like it but

3889
02:38:22,870 --> 02:38:21,439
they would be talking about ufos 24

3890
02:38:24,870 --> 02:38:22,880
hours a day

3891
02:38:29,190 --> 02:38:24,880
seven days a week right

3892
02:38:30,309 --> 02:38:29,200
if if they really looked at the subject

3893
02:38:31,830 --> 02:38:30,319
i uh

3894
02:38:34,550 --> 02:38:31,840
they're they're just not gonna do that

3895
02:38:36,950 --> 02:38:34,560
no i i went through the same thing and

3896
02:38:38,630 --> 02:38:36,960
had this incredible sighting

3897
02:38:39,510 --> 02:38:38,640
and i chose to

3898
02:38:46,790 --> 02:38:39,520
uh

3899
02:38:47,990 --> 02:38:46,800
coast am on friday night where i was my

3900
02:38:50,710 --> 02:38:48,000
own guest

3901
02:38:52,230 --> 02:38:50,720
right i'm interviewing myself

3902
02:38:55,590 --> 02:38:52,240
now

3903
02:38:57,270 --> 02:38:55,600
that everybody listens to that show

3904
02:39:00,630 --> 02:38:57,280
and i

3905
02:39:05,110 --> 02:39:00,640
i didn't want but i expected to hear

3906
02:39:06,469 --> 02:39:05,120
from somebody fox abc nbc somebody

3907
02:39:10,070 --> 02:39:06,479
uh

3908
02:39:12,309 --> 02:39:10,080
and and it was caught on video and and

3909
02:39:13,750 --> 02:39:12,319
hundreds of witnesses

3910
02:39:17,590 --> 02:39:13,760
nothing

3911
02:39:19,590 --> 02:39:17,600
i i i was shocked by that

3912
02:39:21,349 --> 02:39:19,600
you know and now it was a number of

3913
02:39:22,950 --> 02:39:21,359
years ago if i would have done the same

3914
02:39:25,910 --> 02:39:22,960
thing today would be different i don't

3915
02:39:27,750 --> 02:39:25,920
know but uh that that blew me away

3916
02:39:29,510 --> 02:39:27,760
margie i i i just couldn't believe it

3917
02:39:32,070 --> 02:39:29,520
talk about crickets

3918
02:39:33,910 --> 02:39:32,080
real crickets yeah yeah

3919
02:39:37,429 --> 02:39:33,920
it's because they were ordered i i had a

3920
02:39:39,750 --> 02:39:37,439
huge case here in 2012 called the blue

3921
02:39:42,230 --> 02:39:39,760
springs lights which eventually became

3922
02:39:44,790 --> 02:39:42,240
the kansas city lights this entire

3923
02:39:47,270 --> 02:39:44,800
neighborhood was seeing you these ufos

3924
02:39:51,510 --> 02:39:47,280
appear on a nightly basis

3925
02:39:54,309 --> 02:39:51,520
we had the local tv station channel 5

3926
02:39:56,950 --> 02:39:54,319
come out there with a videographer and a

3927
02:39:59,670 --> 02:39:56,960
reporter met me out there

3928
02:40:03,030 --> 02:39:59,680
we saw them we videotaped them they

3929
02:40:04,830 --> 02:40:03,040
videotaped it they had three times they

3930
02:40:07,990 --> 02:40:04,840
came out and did

3931
02:40:10,309 --> 02:40:08,000
reports the fourth time

3932
02:40:12,469 --> 02:40:10,319
things got things got more serious

3933
02:40:15,030 --> 02:40:12,479
because i took them to the place where i

3934
02:40:19,030 --> 02:40:15,040
thought they were originating from

3935
02:40:22,070 --> 02:40:19,040
which was a lake city army ammo plant

3936
02:40:24,230 --> 02:40:22,080
they were seen right over that plant

3937
02:40:25,590 --> 02:40:24,240
we went out there together did an

3938
02:40:28,950 --> 02:40:25,600
investigation

3939
02:40:32,790 --> 02:40:28,960
saw the ufos even closer this time

3940
02:40:34,710 --> 02:40:32,800
then the reporter goes into his boss

3941
02:40:36,309 --> 02:40:34,720
and the boss says i'm pulling the plug

3942
02:40:39,030 --> 02:40:36,319
on this

3943
02:40:41,750 --> 02:40:39,040
don't ask me about it i've been told by

3944
02:40:43,510 --> 02:40:41,760
the higher-ups to to pull the plug on it

3945
02:40:47,190 --> 02:40:43,520
no more

3946
02:40:49,670 --> 02:40:47,200
we have to stop it's a brand new day

3947
02:40:52,630 --> 02:40:49,680
it's a brand new day and that is why

3948
02:40:54,309 --> 02:40:52,640
annex network is is such a success

3949
02:40:57,670 --> 02:40:54,319
people want to know

3950
02:40:58,750 --> 02:40:57,680
uh it's out in the open we i i can't

3951
02:41:00,469 --> 02:40:58,760
wait for

3952
02:41:01,670 --> 02:41:00,479
2022

3953
02:41:04,230 --> 02:41:01,680
to uh

3954
02:41:07,190 --> 02:41:04,240
to see this continue to roll i think i

3955
02:41:08,950 --> 02:41:07,200
think that's where we are today margie

3956
02:41:11,190 --> 02:41:08,960
i think so and

3957
02:41:13,110 --> 02:41:11,200
we have got so many great shows on the

3958
02:41:15,670 --> 02:41:13,120
network and everybody has a different

3959
02:41:17,190 --> 02:41:15,680
take on it they cover different aspects

3960
02:41:21,990 --> 02:41:17,200
you're going to hear

3961
02:41:25,830 --> 02:41:22,000
everything that is out there

3962
02:41:27,349 --> 02:41:25,840
having to do with ufos and paranormal

3963
02:41:29,990 --> 02:41:27,359
on this network

3964
02:41:31,030 --> 02:41:30,000
thank you so much and big news about lee

3965
02:41:32,790 --> 02:41:31,040
spiegel

3966
02:41:35,349 --> 02:41:32,800
that's a get

3967
02:41:37,269 --> 02:41:35,359
that oh yeah i am thrilled to death to

3968
02:41:39,590 --> 02:41:37,279
have lee with us that's absolutely

3969
02:41:41,830 --> 02:41:39,600
amazing and uh nothing nothing but

3970
02:41:45,030 --> 02:41:41,840
bigger things to come margie what an

3971
02:41:46,469 --> 02:41:45,040
amazing night on the show and uh but now

3972
02:41:48,389 --> 02:41:46,479
you're doing

3973
02:41:50,309 --> 02:41:48,399
news segments i've only got about 30

3974
02:41:51,110 --> 02:41:50,319
seconds your network's going to cut me

3975
02:41:54,150 --> 02:41:51,120
off

3976
02:41:55,750 --> 02:41:54,160
um you're doing new segments too

3977
02:41:58,150 --> 02:41:55,760
well i have my show

3978
02:41:59,990 --> 02:41:58,160
called nx news right that i i've been

3979
02:42:02,790 --> 02:42:00,000
doing for years and i'm going to be

3980
02:42:04,950 --> 02:42:02,800
adding a new show to the mix pretty soon

3981
02:42:07,670 --> 02:42:04,960
it's called psychic detective oh that's

3982
02:42:09,910 --> 02:42:07,680
what i'm talking about yeah margie k

3983
02:42:12,790 --> 02:42:09,920
thank you so much margie and and thank

3984
02:42:14,710 --> 02:42:12,800
you for uh overtime tonight and i'll

3985
02:42:16,790 --> 02:42:14,720
just talk to you tomorrow

3986
02:42:19,030 --> 02:42:16,800
all right sounds great thanks jimmy have

3987
02:42:22,309 --> 02:42:19,040
a great night margie k

3988
02:42:25,429 --> 02:42:22,319
the on x network and everybody can go

3989
02:42:26,950 --> 02:42:25,439
you know where it's at on xnetwork.com

3990
02:42:28,469 --> 02:42:26,960
all of the links are up throughout

3991
02:42:30,790 --> 02:42:28,479
social media

3992
02:42:32,469 --> 02:42:30,800
and over at jimmychurchradio.com what a

3993
02:42:34,469 --> 02:42:32,479
great night on the show

3994
02:42:36,469 --> 02:42:34,479
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3995
02:42:38,230 --> 02:42:36,479
here for schrader night

3996
02:42:40,150 --> 02:42:38,240
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02:42:41,670 --> 02:42:40,160
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